Thread: What do you think about a woman trying Methyldienolone?

can you tell us more....how long you've been training, goals, supplements used, diet....all that

unless everything else is truly in order and has been for a long time i wouldn't even consider it. (but i bet you know that)

have you used other phs?

19nor is the one most commonly suggested for women so i'd definitely start there before going with any of the more androgenic choices.

others here know far more than i do about phs but this may be a bit helpful to you to start.

Have you ever taken steriods before?

Nope.

are you hot?

I think that's irrelevant topolo

Let me ask you this.

What you do you think about women trying this?

Originally posted by mousie
Nope.

Why are you wanting to start now??

Methyldienolone is a prosteriod - read up on it - even look at some of the other threads for it. But remember that I mentioned only taking it at a very low dosage.

I guess if it doesn't turn you into a man, but you get great gains from it, there's no harm in it. My boyfriend is going to take it also with Milk Thistle for his liver - so I might as well also. He said that I most likely won't have any side effects from it due to the low dosage.

you don't need to tell dg to read up on it. he knows his stuff.

in all honesty...it seems like maybe you don't and that's cool b/c we ask to learn.

the possible side effects would be the same as for steroids - and in fact there are steroids popular with women that would probably have FEWER andro sides than many phs.

you still haven't told us how long you've been training - where you're at and what your goals are.

i personally don't think this is the substance you want to try first but that's just me. definitely keep researching and asking.

I am wanting to start doing it now before the gov't bans it. I want to do it because I LOVE bodybuilding. I think that I would greatly gain from it due to my body structure.

i hear you about acting before the ban.

how long have you been training?
is your diet in order?

again - why this one instead of 19nor?

Originally posted by mousie
Methyldienolone is a prosteriod...

it's an anabolic steroid, no different from any illegal steroid, the only reason people refer to it as a "pro-steroid" is because it is not illegal.

you definitely need to realize that the risk of bad sides for a woman is higher with this than it is with certain illegal steroids.

i'm not suggesting you go with one of those instead - i just want to be sure you realize that the legality doesn't mean it's "safer" than steroids.

About reading up on it, I wasn't talking to dg - I was talking to BabsieGirl.

Well, I've been in training since 2000. I've been on and off with training due to personal reasons. Once I met my boyfriend 3 years ago, he got me interested in bodybuilding and has taught me a lot of things. Let's see...we trained hard in 2001, but stupid me got out of training. I'm finally trying to get back into bodybuilding, so this time I want to train hard core and make sure that I make this a finalized lifestyle change. My "diet" is in order. I don't like to call it a diet because it really is a lifestyle change. For breakfast, I eat Total Protein cereal (am just trying it) with a piece of 12-grain bread with peanut butter. For a snack, I eat a cup of cottage cheese. Meal 2 consists of a chicken breast and mixed veggies. Meal 3 is a protein shake. Meal 4 is another chicken breast with mixed veggies. Then I head off to the gym, and when I get back, I have another protein shake. I like Optimum's Egg Protein. I tried a 10 pound bag of their whey, but I noticed that I was weak when I was on whey. I just started trying NO2 yesterday, so we'll see how/if it works for me. Oh, and I also have a spoon of flaxseed oil twice a day.

I haven't done any research on 19nor.

If I was to ever do steriods, I rather pop a pill than poke myself in the butt! Anyway, like I said, I was only planning on trying a quarter of a pill a day (.25 mgs). I really don't see how that can be harmful.

Originally posted by nikegurl
you definitely need to realize that the risk of bad sides for a woman is higher with this than it is with certain illegal steroids.

Why is this?

i'm not suggesting you go with one of those instead - i just want to be sure you realize that the legality doesn't mean it's "safer" than steroids.

Are you taking 19-Nor?

19nor is the ph LEAST likely to cause undesireable side effects in women. for this reason it is the one most commonly used by women wishing to use a ph.

Originally posted by mousie
Methyldienolone is a prosteriod - read up on it - even look at some of the other threads for it. But remember that I mentioned only taking it at a very low dosage.

If this was in response to my question hon, it still isn't answered.

I think if you're going to take it, LOW dosage is key from what I've heard.

i'm not taking 19nor but probably will. i've been doing lots of research and i feel ok about it.

my main point was that i don't want mousie to think that phs are "safer" just b/c they are legal. i definitely believe that for women - some phs are more likely to cause voice lowering, facial hair, clit enlargement etc. in women than certain steroids.

Well, I see that 19nor has about the same side effects as any other prosteriod. So why would this be the least likely to cause undesirable side effects? Especially when 19nor is offered in capsules and Methly-D is offered in tablets! At least I can break down a tablet into smaller pieces - I can't do that for a capsule!

I never said that they are safer because they are legal. I just wanted to try it in a smaller dosage. In an article in Muscular Development magazine, the woman took .25 mgs a day and didn't see any manly changes. She actually lost 5+% bodyfat in 1 month!

clearly this is a personal decision....but i don't think deciding to use a low doseage is really the answer. i think making an informed choice as to what substance to mess with and which ones to leave alone (especially for women) is vital.

you have to know about what you're taking long before you think about how much and for how long ya know?

as Prince said - it is a steroid. if that was new info to you then please keep reading and learning before you use even a small doseage.

Yes, I know that it's a steriod AND that it's a personal decision that I have to make. The whole purpose of this thread was to ask if anyone had any advice/comments for my idea. I was actually hoping that I could have other women reply who have tried this or something similar. =O( I guess you can't have your cake and eat it to - actually, you can't have the cake either! Well, please keep replying to this thread if you have more comments/concerns/advice or if you just want to nag.

i honestly wasn't trying to nag you. (sorry)

19nor has the fewest androgenic sides (i don't think i've ever seen anyone disagree with this statement) for that reason it is considered safest for women. now of course that doesn't mean it's the only option.

i personally don't see the benefit in opting for a more androgenic substance the first time you use anything but that's just me.

i wouldn't take the 19nor orally (you mentioned capsules). my reading and talking to other woman who have used it led me to decide on transdermal.

good luck whatever you decide and i'd definitely like to hear about your experience if you decide to try it.

again - i didn't mean to nag you.

Originally posted by nikegurl
i'm not taking 19nor but probably will. i've been doing lots of research and i feel ok about it.

my main point was that i don't want mousie to think that phs are "safer" just b/c they are legal. i definitely believe that for women - some phs are more likely to cause voice lowering, facial hair, clit enlargement etc. in women than certain steroids.

I've been thinking about 19. Not sure yet.

I understood your point. I just thought you knew why sides for a woman is higher with this than it is with certain illegal steroids.

it's considered "highly anabolic and moderately androgenic".

I know you weren't trying to nag me...I was just joking. =O)

Let me look into 19nor...and I will get back to you.