Whats a good ephadra/ephdrine free fat burner?

richirich_99 · 03-12-2004, 12:33 PM

Any one have any suggestions to a fat burner that is ephdrine/ephdra free? I've tried ripped fuel from GNC but i didnt see very many results from it. Any one have any thing that is cost effective and worth taking?

Par Deus · 03-12-2004, 02:06 PM

I am biased, but I would suggest H.E.A.T. Stack from Avant Labs.

The science is kind of complicated, so I will be happy to answer any questions.

richirich_99 · 03-12-2004, 02:07 PM

how much does H.E.A.T. Stack usually go for? Where can i find it? any suggestions? Thanks a lot for the help Par!

mousie · 03-12-2004, 02:18 PM

Personally, I think that the new ephedra free products are just a waste of money. But if you still insist, I guess do some research and find out what works for you. What works for you might not work for someone else.

I plan on driving out of state this weekend to go stock up on ephedra the official ban starts in April.

Twin Peak · 03-12-2004, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mousie
Personally, I think that the new ephedra free products are just a waste of money. But if you still insist, I guess do some research and find out what works for you. What works for you might not work for someone else.

I plan on driving out of state this weekend to go stock up on ephedra the official ban starts in April.

Prior to the release of H.E.A.T. Stack™, I would agree. But the science behind this is unreal, and in a short while, so will the real world feedback be.

H.E.A.T. Stack™ -- From our website:

“H.E.A.T.” stands for Hordenine, Evodiamine, Alpha-yohimbine, and Tyramine. And, in the right combination, they are far, far more than a clever acronym. While its ancestors, with their focus on only norepinephrine, did wonders for appetite suppression, they were modest thermogenics, at best. And, worse than that, they were all out enemies of the central adipostatic machinery, the Fed State, and they caused hypersensitivity to cortisol and the stress response.

With H.E.A.T. Stack, we have added a superior increase in dopamine and epinephrine to a more moderate activation of norepinephrine. The result is activation of more lipolytic and thermogenic pathways, better maintenance of long-term adipostatic machinery, potent appetite suppression, and strong mood and energy support, with fewer negative side-effects.

To summarize:
Superior nutrient partitioning
Superior thermogenesis
Greater energy expenditure increase
Reduced anxiety and jitters
Superior hunger control
More leptin friendly
Enhances mood and energy
Caffeine free
Ephedra free
Reduced heart rate and blood pressure increase
HEAT Stack is 270 capsules, and lasts 30 days at full dosing.

Pre-orders expected to ship within 7-14 days.

richirich_99 · 03-12-2004, 02:32 PM

What are some of the side effects of ephdra?

mousie · 03-12-2004, 02:46 PM

You mean to tell me that you've never tried anything containing ephedra?

richirich_99 · 03-12-2004, 02:48 PM

i have, but i was wondering like does it mess with your heart or anything. It gave me the shakes, and i bounced off the walls with energy.

mousie · 03-12-2004, 02:54 PM

What were you taking and how many were you taking?

BabsieGirl · 03-12-2004, 03:04 PM

Lipo 6 with ephedra

Akateros · 03-12-2004, 04:56 PM

What's a good ephedra/ine free fat-burner?

Cardio exercise.

mousie · 03-12-2004, 04:57 PM

hahaha...liposuction

BabsieGirl · 03-12-2004, 04:58 PM

Testosterone · 03-14-2004, 06:32 AM

What about Lipo-6 Ephedra Free?
What's your opinion of Ephedra Free Version when compared to various Ephedra Free Thermogenics that are flooded in market?

Quote:

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
Lipo 6 with ephedra

Par Deus · 03-16-2004, 04:41 PM

99% of EC replacements aree garbage.

I think Meltdown (and/or Redline -- I get them confused) looks as good or better than EC on paper, and I think H.E.A.T. Stack is better, short-term, and considerably better long-term.

I am obviously biased on the latter product.

I think Chisled, Tight, and even Hot-Rox and Thermorexin are pretty decent EC replacements, as well.

Smith_X · 03-17-2004, 03:23 AM

I had ever used Xenadrine EFX 2 bottles (2 months ago until now.) It's work for me but not much as I ever saw in many advertisment. So, when I finish the third bottle, I think will not use it anymore. I will take coffee and cardio instead.

I never use Xenadrine RFA-1 nor any other ephedra product. So, I do not know the different.

I cut carbohydrate 50% by eat very little rice, less sugar and fat, too.

Are there any other tip to lean body fat would welcome.

skillz · 03-17-2004, 12:50 PM

Best ephedra product is VPX clenbutrx best non ephedra is VPX Redline..

03-12-2004, 12:33 PM	#1
richirich_99 The sky's the limit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 119 Photos: 1	Whats a good ephadra/ephdrine free fat burner? Any one have any suggestions to a fat burner that is ephdrine/ephdra free? I've tried ripped fuel from GNC but i didnt see very many results from it. Any one have any thing that is cost effective and worth taking?

03-12-2004, 02:06 PM	#2
Par Deus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 178	I am biased, but I would suggest H.E.A.T. Stack from Avant Labs. The science is kind of complicated, so I will be happy to answer any questions. http://secure.mirage-solutions.com/e...es/pardeus.jpg www.mindandmuscle.net

03-12-2004, 03:04 PM	#10
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Lipo 6 with ephedra Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

03-12-2004, 04:58 PM	#13
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

03-16-2004, 04:41 PM	#15
Par Deus Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 178	99% of EC replacements aree garbage. I think Meltdown (and/or Redline -- I get them confused) looks as good or better than EC on paper, and I think H.E.A.T. Stack is better, short-term, and considerably better long-term. I am obviously biased on the latter product. I think Chisled, Tight, and even Hot-Rox and Thermorexin are pretty decent EC replacements, as well. http://secure.mirage-solutions.com/e...es/pardeus.jpg www.mindandmuscle.net

03-12-2004, 02:07 PM	#3
richirich_99 The sky's the limit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 119 Photos: 1	how much does H.E.A.T. Stack usually go for? Where can i find it? any suggestions? Thanks a lot for the help Par!

03-12-2004, 02:18 PM	#4
mousie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 692	Personally, I think that the new ephedra free products are just a waste of money. But if you still insist, I guess do some research and find out what works for you. What works for you might not work for someone else. I plan on driving out of state this weekend to go stock up on ephedra the official ban starts in April.

03-12-2004, 02:32 PM	#6
richirich_99 The sky's the limit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 119 Photos: 1	What are some of the side effects of ephdra?

03-12-2004, 02:46 PM	#7
mousie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 692	You mean to tell me that you've never tried anything containing ephedra?

03-12-2004, 02:48 PM	#8
richirich_99 The sky's the limit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 119 Photos: 1	i have, but i was wondering like does it mess with your heart or anything. It gave me the shakes, and i bounced off the walls with energy.

03-12-2004, 02:54 PM	#9
mousie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 692	What were you taking and how many were you taking?

03-12-2004, 04:56 PM	#11
Akateros I read it someplace. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 481	What's a good ephedra/ine free fat-burner? Cardio exercise.

03-12-2004, 04:57 PM	#12
mousie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 692	hahaha...liposuction

03-17-2004, 03:23 AM	#16
Smith_X Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 44	I had ever used Xenadrine EFX 2 bottles (2 months ago until now.) It's work for me but not much as I ever saw in many advertisment. So, when I finish the third bottle, I think will not use it anymore. I will take coffee and cardio instead. I never use Xenadrine RFA-1 nor any other ephedra product. So, I do not know the different. I cut carbohydrate 50% by eat very little rice, less sugar and fat, too. Are there any other tip to lean body fat would welcome.

03-17-2004, 12:50 PM	#17
skillz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8	Best ephedra product is VPX clenbutrx best non ephedra is VPX Redline.. Like Warm Apple Pie!?!

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