Avant's H.E.A.T.

**aggies1ut** · 03-12-2004, 10:27 PM

Hordenine, Evodiamine, Alpha-yohimbine, and Tyramine......
To summarize:
Superior nutrient partitioning
Superior thermogenesis
Greater energy expenditure increase
Reduced anxiety and jitters
Superior hunger control
More leptin friendly
Enhances mood and energy
Caffeine free
Ephedra free
Reduced heart rate and blood pressure increase
HEAT Stack is 270 capsules, and lasts 30 days at full dosing.

Pre-orders expected to ship within 7-14 days.

Better get crackin on your pre-orders.

**plouffe** · 03-12-2004, 10:30 PM

Just read about it actually. Don't know much about those compound besides what I read on their site... ( and you know how that goes sometimes ) I don't know -- someone give it a try!

**aggies1ut** · 03-12-2004, 10:31 PM

Oops, should ave posted this in supps.

**Twin Peak** · 03-12-2004, 10:38 PM

Yeah -- not ingredients you see too often, especially not at these doses.

Par will have a full write-up at some point in the near future.

**Monolith** · 03-12-2004, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by plouffe
Just read about it actually. Don't know much about those compound besides what I read on their site... ( and you know how that goes sometimes ) I don't know -- someone give it a try!

Did you read the feedback at the bottom of that initial writeup?

Stuff looks really promising. A stimulant that has only mild effects on BP/HR, no related 'crash', and one that you can - apparently - use for near twice as long as E/C before you need to cycle it. Not to mention the nootropic effects.

It'd be interesting to have someone who's used E/C as a thermo compare results to extended HEAT use.

**aggies1ut** · 03-12-2004, 10:54 PM

The "super fish oil" looks interesting too. I'm looking forward to hearing feedback on these products when they are available to the general public.

**Monolith** · 03-12-2004, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by aggies1ut
The "super fish oil" looks interesting too. I'm looking forward to hearing feedback on these products when they are available to the general public.

Definitely!

I wanted to order some of the beta sesathin today, but im going out of town next week. I'm not sure what the deal is with the sesathin... if it's only beta till they run out of their current supply, or what, but hopefully they'll still have some come the week of the 22nd.

I've been lookin forward to this stuff for a while.

**once was fat** · 03-12-2004, 11:17 PM

Hey TP will there be any testing with heat as far as guini pigs. I have tried numerous fat burners including ephedrine with caffine and none of them seems to do absoultley nothing for me. Im currently at 12% bf 6 foot 1 173lbs. Trying to get under 10% bf by the start of summer.

**Jodi** · 03-13-2004, 01:37 AM

I have ordere HEAT and SesaThin. I'll let you guys know how it works for me

Once - Testing has already been done. Read the article and you'll see the test results on HEAT testing.

http://magazine.mindandmuscle.net/ma...D=235&issueID=

**Twin Peak** · 03-13-2004, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by Jodi
I have ordere HEAT and SesaThin. I'll let you guys know how it works for me

Once - Testing has already been done. Read the article and you'll see the test results on HEAT testing.

http://magazine.mindandmuscle.net/ma...D=235&issueID=

That's true, but I'll probably take a few "testers" from here, because I love you all so much.

I'll sort this out after I get the LeptiGen Mass™ and Rebirth™ testers up and running next week.

SesaThin™ will be around for a long time, how long it will be a beta for is unclear.

**aggies1ut** · 03-13-2004, 10:32 AM

Yay, Jodi's going to try them out. No doubt that Avant makes top notch supps, but since supps are so pricey I need more user feedback before I fork over the dough.

**Twin Peak** · 03-13-2004, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by aggies1ut
Yay, Jodi's going to try them out. No doubt that Avant makes top notch supps, but since supps are so pricey I need more user feedback before I fork over the dough.

That's why we want unbiased "testers."

Don't forget, however, that we have a 100% back money guarantee -- Avant stands behind all its products.

Lastly, can a mod move this to teh Supp forum?

**aggies1ut** · 03-13-2004, 04:07 PM

Go right ahead TP. That's where I should have put it, but I wasn't paying attention last night.

**Par Deus** · 03-16-2004, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by Monolith
Did you read the feedback at the bottom of that initial writeup?

Stuff looks really promising. A stimulant that has only mild effects on BP/HR, no related 'crash', and one that you can - apparently - use for near twice as long as E/C before you need to cycle it. Not to mention the nootropic effects.

It'd be interesting to have someone who's used E/C as a thermo compare results to extended HEAT use.

The feedback we posted is actually pretty unfavorable, because we had to test proper dosing because it is a very novel combination of very novel ingredients, so most of it was made using about half the amount in the final.

The feedback on day 3/formula 3/etc. is most applicable.

**topolo** · 03-16-2004, 04:46 PM

jodi are you going to stack these??????

is that necessary for fat loss or will heat work by itself?

**Jodi** · 03-16-2004, 08:52 PM

HEAT will definately work by itself.

I will be taking both though. I'll be cutting my fish oil in half and adding the SesaThin.

**aggies1ut** · 03-31-2004, 05:02 PM

Whoohoo. I just got my order today. I can't wait to try it.

**Fitgirl70** · 03-31-2004, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Twin Peak
That's true, but I'll probably take a few "testers" from here, because I love you all so much.

I've ordered the SesaThin too Jodi.....can I be a "tester" for the HEAT TP?

**aggies1ut** · 03-31-2004, 05:31 PM

As with ephedrine, is it necessary to cyle on and off HEAT?

**Monolith** · 03-31-2004, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Par Deus
The feedback we posted is actually pretty unfavorable, because we had to test proper dosing because it is a very novel combination of very novel ingredients, so most of it was made using about half the amount in the final.

The feedback on day 3/formula 3/etc. is most applicable.

So, what results were you hoping to achieve that you didnt, then? IMO, being able to mimick some aspects of an EC stack without any appreciable sides makes this stuff look pretty good.

**topolo** · 03-31-2004, 07:26 PM

im still awaitng the heat and sesathin........................tick tock

**Twin Peak** · 03-31-2004, 08:47 PM

Should be on its way. Patience.

**aggies1ut** · 03-31-2004, 08:49 PM

How would you suggest cycling this product? For example, once you are through with one bottle, take a few weeks off, and then restart another bottle?

**plouffe** · 04-01-2004, 06:56 AM

Has anyone used this stuff yet?!

**topolo** · 04-10-2004, 07:42 PM

I plan to...............if it ever gets here.

I hope this post doesn't offend Prince.

**atherjen** · 04-11-2004, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by plouffe
Has anyone used this stuff yet?!

Jodi has.

**aggies1ut** · 04-11-2004, 10:34 AM

I'm using it and I haven't felt anything thus far.

**plouffe** · 04-11-2004, 10:49 AM

No rush like ephedrine?

**aggies1ut** · 04-11-2004, 11:13 AM

I haven't felt a damn thing.

**Jodi** · 04-11-2004, 11:43 AM

It's not really used for stimulant. There are very little stimulant effects in it. It's a fat burner.

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