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Old 04-25-2004, 12:57 AM   #1
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Question Vasopro Ephedrine HCl

Has anyone used this product? Is this really ephedrine or is it a wanna be knock-off. The label shows:

Ephedrine HCl - 25mg

Guaifenesin - 200mg

What is Guaifenesin? If you've used this product what are your opinions.Thanks!
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Old 04-25-2004, 01:00 AM   #2
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I have, yes it's real ephedrine.


Guaifenesin thins the mucus in the air passages and makes it easier to cough up the mucus and clear the airways, allowing you to breathe more easily. It relieves the coughs of colds, bronchitis, and other lung infections.



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Old 04-25-2004, 01:36 AM   #3
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very good! i love it...a good stack is 25mg 3 times a day stacked with 200mg caffiene when cutting
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stacked with caffeine makes it one of the best fat burners I've ever used...



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If you can get pure Ephedrine HCL or sulphate (which you can), you're better off.

Guaifenesin is what gives people headaches. If you read the reviews on Bulk Nutrition / 1fast, you'll see this is a common side effect. It's also added to make the product more "legal" as an anti-asthmatic/bronchodialator and reduce the potential for abuse/meth production. I have posted scientific evidence of this in the past, but no one seems to care b/c Vasopro is so inexpensive.

Check this out:
http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000015.htm


Logically, you don't need to take the Guaifenesin for effect, so why if you don't have to?



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stacked with caffeine makes it one of the best fat burners I've ever used...
Thanks to this fella Hold DaMayo,, I bought 8 bottles of Vasopro E and Caffeine from bulknutrition.
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stacked with caffeine makes it one of the best fat burners I've ever used...

I finally did my EC stack and it's incredible. Very Powerful stuff.



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I was curious because I know that there are different types of ephedrine. I used to get bottles from the gas station that were little white pills with a cross on them. Those worked really well but since the ban its all gone. Whats the difference between ephedrine, and ephedra?
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Whats the difference between ephedrine, and ephedra?
Ephedra has been banned, ephedrine has not been banned and is still available.


1. What is Ephedra?
Ephedra refers to several related species of herbs that commonly grow in desert areas. It is best known as a botanical source of the alkaloids ephedrine, pseudoephedrine and others. Ephedra species also contain many other constituents. Ephedra sinica, whose Chinese name is Ma Huang, has been used in recent years in products marketed for weight loss, body building and increased energy.

2. What is ephedrine?
Ephedrine is a chemical derivative of the herb Ephedra sinica and several other species of Ephedra, and was first isolated and used pharmaceutically about 100 years ago. It stimulates the central nervous and the cardiovascular systems, and causes the lung bronchi to dilate. Products containing ephedrine may use the compound extracted from Ephedra or be produced synthetically.



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So Prince does that mean it does the same thing? Either one is good for fat loss?
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i just bought 7 bottles of vasopro eph hcl too
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it means ephedrine is actually stronger than ephedra....
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Old 04-26-2004, 09:55 PM   #13
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I bought 4 bottles last night. I will give it a shot, and if I like it I will buy a ton of it. Do you know if fast is going to stop selling it anytime soon?
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Old 04-26-2004, 11:07 PM   #14
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im sure he wants to milk this fat cow as much as possible
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I will give it a go and if it seems to really work for me when combined with a good diet and some cardio/lifting then I will buy the max of 50 bottles. Its only a matter of time before this stuff is gone too!
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It's not going away..

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=50

"This Product will not be banned April 12th"

Stack it with either:
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=48

or

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=961

And you've got yourself a very effective EC stack for $13-14 before shipping.
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it means ephedrine is actually stronger than ephedra....
If it's stronger, then why isn't that banned as well?



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Because it is used in OTC medicines to help asthma pateints. FDA doesn't want the pharmacuetical companies in an uproar now do they
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Hey, is there a difference between www.1fast400.com and www.bulknutrition.com?

I'm sure that pretty soon they'll require a prescription for ephedrine to make sure that people like us don't try to get a hand on it.



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No - It's OTC = over the counter - no prescription needed.

1fast and bulk nutrition are the same company.
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Old 04-27-2004, 01:20 PM   #21
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Yeah I know...but I'm saying that they might start to require prescriptions.



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I doubt that very much.
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I dont think they will either.

Oh...ECY stack is the only thing I have been using as a thermo.



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Sudafed et al make way too much money. Parent companies of OTC bronchodilators would fight tooth and nail if the FDA ever tried to make ephedrine prescription only, me thinks.



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what dosage of this does everyone take and for how long?



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oh and by the way if this is really better than ephedra why did anybody care that ephedra was banned?



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from 1fast400.com:

Adults and children 12 years of age and over: Take 1 (one) tablet every 4 to 6 hours not to exceed 4 (four) tablets in 24 hours, or as directed by a physician. Do not exceed recommended dosage. Children under 12 years of age: Consult a physician.


as for me when my order gets here (any day now), im gonna have to experiment and see how it reacts with my body.
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are you stacking it?



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oh and by the way if this is really better than ephedra why did anybody care that ephedra was banned?
No one really did.

I mean, the ban itself was arrogantly hypocritical considering what drugs arent banned that cause more social chaos (alcohol comes to mind), which is the reason a lot of people put up a fight.

In the end, though, its probably best for everyone involved. You wont have uneducated highschool kids popping 15 "yellowjackets" and washing it down with a redbull having heart attacks, and the educated bodybuilding/fitness community still has access to the refined ephedra alkaloids.

Lets just hope we dont start seeing late night infomercials for "the incredible cold cure that also happens to make you lose weight!"



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