Thread: Rash From S1+, Questions, Help Needed

where do you apply it to?

Chest, shoulders, biceps, traps. All areas of very very light hair or completely hairless. Rash has developed and gotten worse the past few days. I am not sure if its from the S1+, a few people said it looked like heat rash. Its just tons of little bumps not really of any color, and its very itchy.

I am thinking about just starting up some M1T at this point, and then after 2 weeks of that starting my 2 bottles of 6-OXO.

do you switch, or put it on all of those areas every time?

if so that could be part of your problem, try applying to a different area each time to give the other spots a break.

I do alternate application spots. One day its my right pec and right biceps, then the next time maybe my traps, then the next time maybe my left shoulder and left biceps, etc.

well, fuck it then, M1T works a hell of a lot better anyway!

LOL.

Think so huh Rob? I am seriously thinking about picking some up and starting tomorrow, and maybe running it for a few weeks then doing my 2 bottles of 6-OXO? Is that a bad idea? Going straight from S1+ to M1T?

I know one damn thing, I would be able to tell if one was working and one wasn't!

How long have you been on already, Mon?

Today was day 24. Started off with 5 sprays 2x per day and then bumped it to 7/8 sprays 2x per day. Now I am deciding between M1T and 1-AD. This is my 1st real PH/OTC cycle, I wish I could find something that actually was noticeable in terms of gains.

Originally posted by MonStar
LOL.

Think so huh Rob? I am seriously thinking about picking some up and starting tomorrow, and maybe running it for a few weeks then doing my 2 bottles of 6-OXO? Is that a bad idea? Going straight from S1+ to M1T?

I know one damn thing, I would be able to tell if one was working and one wasn't!

I know so.

Actually, that is exactly what I am doing. I started S1+ two weeks ago, then started M1T, doing both right now for another two weeks.

Wow, so you're doing both right now? You really really need to keep a journal so I can see what kind of gains you're getting from different products, etc.

Have you taken 1-AD Rob? I am reading the reviews for 1-AD and M1T and they're both positive.

Originally posted by MonStar
Today was day 24. Started off with 5 sprays 2x per day and then bumped it to 7/8 sprays 2x per day. Now I am deciding between M1T and 1-AD. This is my 1st real PH/OTC cycle, I wish I could find something that actually was noticeable in terms of gains.

This far in i think youd be better off just finishing out your S1+ cycle at 4 weeks (no reason going to a fifth if you arent seeing any gains), doing your PCT, and then starting up your second cycle with something stronger like M1T or M-Dien.

... Actually after really checking completely the reviews for 1-AD are just a tad better than the reviews for M1T. Now I think that one should bear in mind that most people writing reviews for 1-AD combined it with 4-AD, and most did a 4-week cycle. Most writing reviews for M1T did it alone, and ran a 2-week cycle. Just my opinion.

This far in i think youd be better off just finishing out your S1+ cycle at 4 weeks (no reason going to a fifth if you arent seeing any gains), doing your PCT, and then starting up your second cycle with something stronger like M1T or M-Dien.

Honestly though, man, I don't like the rash that the S1+ is giving me.

I mean maybe that's a stupid reason to stop but I cannot deal with itching, and quite frankly, I can't deal with the intimacy issues caused between me and the girl I am seeing, one more than one occasion.

Originally posted by Monolith
This far in i think youd be better off just finishing out your S1+ cycle at 4 weeks (no reason going to a fifth if you arent seeing any gains), doing your PCT, and then starting up your second cycle with something stronger like M1T or M-Dien.

I agree with that, finish the 4th week of S1+ and take 4 weeks off, then look at doing an M1T cycle.

The rash though is not something that I want to deal with at all, I mean I have absolutely no desire to continue with this rash. I would like to start up some M1T tomorrow, is that a bad idea? I mean start at 5mg maybe and work up to 15-20mg.

Is would M1T alone be okay to do, or is 4-AD pretty much no question?

Originally posted by MonStar
Honestly though, man, I don't like the rash that the S1+ is giving me.

I mean maybe that's a stupid reason to stop but I cannot deal with itching, and quite frankly, I can't deal with the intimacy issues caused between me and the girl I am seeing, one more than one occasion.

So stop now. Run your PCT, and try again with something else.

Just make sure you dont get any S1 on your girl.

Damnit.

I would much rather start M1T and actually see some real gains before I spend $65 on my PCT and use that up. Would it honestly be an incredibly bad idea for me to run an M1T cycle, and then follow that up with my 6-OXO?

... If what I just posted was confusing what I am trying to say is that I would rather save the $65 spent on my PCT and do an M1T cycle first, and then go ahead with the 6-OXO. Rather than spend the $65 on the 6-OXO twice, I am a poor college student!

Originally posted by MonStar
Damnit.

I would much rather start M1T and actually see some real gains before I spend $65 on my PCT and use that up. Would it honestly be an incredibly bad idea for me to run an M1T cycle, and then follow that up with my 6-OXO?

Well, i dont know if youve had any sides thus far... but the longer youre on, the harder youll shut yourself down. PCT is going to last longer. And in general, i think cycles longer than 4 weeks for a first cycle are frowned upon. I mean, why risk it? Youve got plenty of time. You dont want to fuck up your liver or end up with a couple raisins between your legs.

Of course, all that advice is just based on what little ive read about PH cycles... no first hand experience. So take it for what its worth.

Thanks for the input man, really appreciate it.

Rob, I am roughly 3 weeks into my S1+, and I am probably going to do a 2-week cycle of M1T starting tomorrow.

Maybe something like 5mg in the morning, and 5mg in the evening for the first week. And maybe the last 7 days throw in another 5mg at lunchtime?

I would have no problem doing that, it's your call though.

Okay Rob, thanks.

Check your PM's by the way.

But weren't you also taking usnic acid...that could be responsible for the rashes.

Originally posted by Robert DiMaggio
well, fuck it then, M1T works a hell of a lot better anyway!

Damn, 1st I've heard Prince swear... Must be roid rage

I developed small rash using 4AD on my forearms..
After ruling out anything else that might be causing the rash, like Prince said, just try different parts of your body till you find an area that is not as sensitive. If you react to all areas... shit can the product and try something else.

I've developed a small rash from Ecthed (topical 7-oxo and 4-hydroxytest). I've been varying application sites, but it's supposed to be "local," and for the abs, so there's only so much room. I'm also taking M1T.

I know the obvious answer is local irritation fromt he transdermal, but is there anyway the rash could be due to 5mg ED of M1T (just bumped to 10)? Like, my paranoid side is saying it is like the Usnic Acid rash that precedes liver failure!

When do you apply the etched?

I apply twice a day right now, right after morning shower, and about two hours before bed.

The rash surfaced basically on my hip line, where the waist of my pants/shorts runs, which hasn't really been where I have been applying it (although it could run that direction with sweat, etc).

I'm using aloe and menthol gel (for sunburns-->awesome for other things), and it's under control, but I'm a tad worried, just b/c it's my first Methyl cycle and all.