supplements can aid in weight loss and weight gain but they must be used in conjuction with a sound diet and regular training regimine.
there are many bogus supps out on the market. typically if it looks to good to be true, it is...
Hi everyone,
I'm new to training but i'm serious about getting it right and seeing results. I've been reading around and it seems opinions are divided on supplements. I've just started taking creatine, designer whey and met rx meal replacements. I'm wondering if they are worth the money or just a marketing scam. I'm trying to sort out my nutrition but can't get all the meals in so I guessed supplements would help.
What does everyone think?![]()
Thanks


supplements can aid in weight loss and weight gain but they must be used in conjuction with a sound diet and regular training regimine.
there are many bogus supps out on the market. typically if it looks to good to be true, it is...
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.


Supplements have a purpose, some may not work at all.
A meal replacement is obviously a meal replacement, it will have protein carbs and some fats, so obviously that is a product that serves a purpose. I dont need MRPs because I have a job where I can eat food pretty much anytime I want.
Creatine doesn't do jack for me, I've tried several products including Swole V2.
Motivation Bench form Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu
Disclaimer: All health, fitness, diet, nutrition, anabolic steroid & supplement information posted here is intended for educational and informational purposes only, and is not intended as a substitute for proper medical advice from a medical doctor. We do not condone the use of anabolic steroids (AAS), all information about AAS is for educational and entertainment purposes only. If you choose to use AAS it's your responsibility to know the laws of the country that you live in. Consult your physician or health care professional before performing any of the exercises, or following any diet, nutrition or supplement advice described on this website.
Some supplements are all hype and do nothing. IMO the only supplements worth taking are supplements that your body actually needs that you don't get enough of from a regular diet. I.E. Protein/glutamine/EFA/Flaxseed oil. There are some other supplements that help with liver function like milk thistle, and there is saw palmetto that is good for prostate health. These are optional type supplements but they are worth taking. They are not something you will notice an gains from, but may help your body cope with other supplement use, and heavy training. Most PH's are junk. M1T, MethylD, and other 1 test products seem to work with most people to add muscle. Basically if I were you I would work on perfecting your diet. That is where your gains are going to come from.
Creatine works ,at least for me, it gives strenght,resistence,and size (SAN V12) packed size in my chest, shoulders and gave me 1/2 in my bis in less than a month , but now that im cutting (stopped taking creatine and changed diet) i lost all what ive gained and went back to were i was, so if u want real muscle or just water muscle u choose
Mexico


Mudge...try theseOriginally posted by Mudge
Supplements have a purpose, some may not work at all.
A meal replacement is obviously a meal replacement, it will have protein carbs and some fats, so obviously that is a product that serves a purpose. I dont need MRPs because I have a job where I can eat food pretty much anytime I want.
Creatine doesn't do jack for me, I've tried several products including Swole V2.
http://www.vitalstate.com/html/produ...reatine%2DMain
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
So do you think that the creatine is just adding water hence adding size? I don't mean to sound dense its just this is all new to meWhen I was in GNC a woman was having a go at the shop assistant for selling creatine to me as she was saying its not good for women as it just bloats them. But the guy said I should just lower doseage and the benfits should outweigh the cons.
Thanks everyone for replying, it really is helpful.![]()
Creatine causes water retention inside the muscle cell. Good water retention. Desirable water retention. Creatine DOES NOT cause water retention under the skin. You want water retention inside the muscle at all times. You want to increase the fluid holding capacity of the muscle cell. This is what creatine does and this is a major physiological pathway to how creatine works to increase muscle size and strength.
If you are turning to the bodybuilding magazines for truthful advice of supplements, you're being ripped from both ends. You’re being lied to from ads that are disguised as articles and you are getting lied to from the ads themselves.
http://www.openukonline.co.uk
Yes. No. Yes. No. Yes. No.
I can't decide![]()
![]()
most supplements are a complete waste of money. a cheap protein seems to be common as a meal replacement but the rest of the stuff is just hype. there will be hundreds of posts about how such and such works for him or her and that you should at least give it a try. waste of money and time and effort.
most will mean well and have the best of intentions in telling you of their experience just as i am telling you that its a crock. Then there are some that are rather shameless in their particular product promotion. it is probably not the best place to seek unbiased info: coming onto a bodybuilding board to ask that question where known hucksters and shills lurk, ready to pounce on the unknowing but hopeful and inquisitive
good luck.
I agree with most things being a WASTE of $$$.
Nutritional supplements have a purpose if your diet is lacking...such as whey, MRPs, and EFAs. Other than that the only thing I would recommend is ECA, BCAAs, and glutamine...all 3 ONLY when cutting though.
That's basically it.
Searching for the right balance...
How much are you spending a week on groceries? If you are trying to bulk, the bill should be a minimum of 125.00, assuming you are buying organic whole foods and meats (venison, buffalo, grass fed beef, fish, etc). If you still have any money left after groceries buy a BCAA/Glutamine mix (ICE is a good one) for use pre and during workout, some creatine, a potent multivitamin and EFA's. That should get you started for the next 6 months.
"Let me quarterback this"== Lorenzo in TRAINING DAY
I believe in food but some supplements are very good (creatine,glutamine, garlic, whey ...)


let's not forget a basic multi-vitamin/mineral supplement, that is the most important one of all!
This is probably true for most people since they don't get everything they need from food. I don't take a V&M sup because I think I am getting all that I need from my food and other sups. To each their own.Originally posted by Robert DiMaggio
let's not forget a basic multi-vitamin/mineral supplement, that is the most important one of all!
![]()
I think it is impossible to get everyday all the right micronutrients just from food.
well I am sure there is probably something I could use that I am not getting, but I think I have all the basics covered. I eat 5 solid meals a day plus two of my signature protein shakes.
I'm taking multi vitamin and using meal reps when I can't get a meal in (or rather than eating junk) I'm taking whey protein after training and at nights and if i don't eat my amount in food. I must confess I find preparing and eating the right amounts and types of food difficult. I guess I've got to try harder. I dosen't help that my diet used to be dreadful before i started training, I'd happily eat chocolate instead of meals. I also don't like feeling full even a tiny bit so I guess i find shakes easier.
The creatine I'm still curious about. I'm taking a teaspoon a day at least and I haven't bloated too much. I know some people say its a no no for women. Any opinions on that?![]()
DISCLAIMER: