Thread: Does V12 include this dangerous substances?

That article is full of shit.

hmm what makes you say that? I read it and found it very informative and kinda scary. But then again I would like to hear the "other" side.

So why do you think its full of shit?

I heard that t-mag is in with biotest(?) a major competitor of syntrax. So basically it is trying to deface a competitors product. Something like that.

T-mag IS Biotest

There is still a lot of debate over GPA. If I remember correctly, there was a thread over at Avant where Par and others were debating it.

Thanks

T-mag has good articles for gear, but I dont buy into their supplemental advice

I will check Avant.

Biotest seems like a lot of overpriced hype to me, but I love their articles.

I have never seen a good review to one of their products...

I havent either.

Hmm interesting, I didnt know that they are a competitor. That kinda makes sense why he said some of that stuff then...

but does V12 include that substance in my original post? I know that Swole does.

Dunno, never used it. I plan to try v12 after my swolev2 is gone. I personally like swole.

I cant remember if V12 has GPA or not. Check the write up on it at bulknutrition. I've used Swole and V12...V12 worked far better for me. Now I use Vitalstate Creatine Actijubes. They sent me some samples and its all Ive bought since. I love the stuff

Are those the little red things? Where did you get a smaple?

free sample here...... http://www.actijube.net/

page not found.

It might have something to do with the fact that the company just got delisted from the stock market and is now a penny stock... Not that this has anything to do with how good their product is, but it might explain why the "free sample" link doesnt work.

I LOVE this product and cant imagine using anything else in the near future.

premier,

where did you see these product reviews for BioTest that you mentioned? or is it that you have never seen any review of their products? just wondering.

Originally Posted by MarcusMaximus

premier,

where did you see these product reviews for BioTest that you mentioned? or is it that you have never seen any review of their products? just wondering.

Its the latter.

We had discussion on both the Syntrax board and our own.

Since then, Spook has designed a product that includes GPA, and his write-up covers the major concerns as well:

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/page.php?pageID=246

Thanks Par

V12 doesn't contain Guanidinopropionic Acid (GPA), BUT, it does contain Glycocyamine(G-amine) which the article says that it decreases the creatine intake to the muscles(G-amine may also decrease its uptake by muscles (Zugno et al., 2003).

Ive had great success with it, can't complain yet.

I just got my Russian Red creatine actijubes from Vitalstate and they are AWESOME!