Thread: Products that suppress the Thyroid!?!?

I wouldn't be surprised if long-term use of Ephedra created your problem. I feel the "withdrawl" effects even after a few weeks of use. If your thyroid tests came back normal, why do you think you have a thyroid problem? A much more common problem from CNS stimulant use/abuse would be a lowered level of seratonin and other neurotransmitters that produce the feeling of weel-being that Ephedra alkaloids were doing artifically for a long period. I personally think adding a thyroid stim to your problems would only make things worse in the long run.

I would first get off all stims, including Redline, caffeine, etc. You need to get your body to start producing it's own chemicals again. It's just like coming off a AAS or PH cycle. I would take sizable doses of St. Johns Wort, 5-HTP, 7-keto DHEA, and tyrosine, and possibly some Phenibut or Kava to help you sleep.

It will take a while to get back to normal--think about how long you essentially programmed your body to require stims. But if you don't allow yourself to "Reset" so to speak, you're problems will only worsen.

I ordered some Cytomel T3 (cynomel) tonight from a mexican pharmacy. Im gonna give that a shot and see what happens!

Uhh... thats just going to fuck up your thyroid even more.

I took T3 and I never really got shutdown I don't think. I have been off for 3 weeks and eating like a pig without gaining a pound. I lost a bunch on it, though.

hair thining is usually related to stress. Long term of ephedra use will put your body in to stress mode thats why u should always take stimulants with breaks. I've been on ephedra for 5 years before the ban with no problems. One thing I did was take ephedra every other day. You should not take ephedra during days when you go to the gym, only the days you are off and you will be fine. You can also take it 5 days a week and give your body 2 days of rest. Some people take it for a month and than take 5 days off. Most important things to do while on ephedra is to stay hydrated, take good multi vit/min supplement and make sure that u eat at least 3-5 times a day (small meals). Heavy workout places your body into stress mode also. Thats why you have to keep your body hydrated and nutritionally balanced by taking good vitamins /minerals.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I took T3 and I never really got shutdown I don't think. I have been off for 3 weeks and eating like a pig without gaining a pound. I lost a bunch on it, though.

Although shutdown is a more common occurence from T3, some actually get a "rebound effect," going about 50-100% higher than normal after a week or two of coming off. You may be one of those lucky people.

I read that T3 drugs such as Cytomel and Armour actually dont suppress or stop the thyroid when coming off.......... so which is true.......?????????

to Daniel600x or anyone that knows- is there a documented correlation to hair thinning and ephedra use???????????????

Originally Posted by gopro

Although shutdown is a more common occurence from T3, some actually get a "rebound effect," going about 50-100% higher than normal after a week or two of coming off. You may be one of those lucky people.

Sweet GP, I never knew that. Do you have any reference to this? This intrigues me. I imagine it could be because once you stop your body recognizes no T3 and pumps it out like a mofo.

I am still staving off the fat very easily.

Originally Posted by billytk1

I ordered some Cytomel T3 (cynomel) tonight from a mexican pharmacy. Im gonna give that a shot and see what happens!

I actually think Brodus gave you some good info. I think your problem may have come from prolonged use. Adding to it will only make it worse. You need to give your body a break. Negative feedback in the thyroid may decrease natural levels of T3 in the body, causing a decrease of metabolic rate after coming off a cycle of T3. That can cause a rebound effect during which a lot of weight is gained back. As with insulin, misuse of this compound can leave you dependent on exogenous T3 for the rest of your life

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Sweet GP, I never knew that. Do you have any reference to this? This intrigues me. I imagine it could be because once you stop your body recognizes no T3 and pumps it out like a mofo.

I am still staving off the fat very easily.

The "references" I have seen to this have been from bloodwork done by a couple of very well known DRUG PROTOCOL EXPERTS that I speak to regularly (the guys that put together the entire drug regimens for IFBB pros). This effect does not happen with everyone, but it DOES for MANY...I believe you are one b/c what you describe is exactly what others do who get this "rebound."

Sweet deal then. I should get some bloodwork done here ASAP. Plus, if my bloodwork shows low T3, I could prolly get a script so it is a win-win situation.

Good T3 FACT:

http://anabolicfreakz.com/forum/show...&threadid=7085

T3 is also more likely to burn muscle than fat in lean users


This is reason enough to avoid it IMO, thanks DG

Originally Posted by topolo

T3 is also more likely to burn muscle than fat in lean users


This is reason enough to avoid it IMO, thanks DG

T3 should ALWAYS be combined with an anabolic of some kind, and then you will end up building MORE muscle, not less.

Originally Posted by gopro

T3 should ALWAYS be combined with an anabolic of some kind, and then you will end up building MORE muscle, not less.

would a potent ph be enough gp, or would one need real gear?

definately real gear...t3 will eat your muscles up without a good bit of gear backing it up

Originally Posted by topolo

would a potent ph be enough gp, or would one need real gear?

With something like a M 1-T/4-AD stack you would be in a potent enough area for this effect.

Also, remember, while larger doses of thyroid can be lean tissue wasting, smaller doses can be anabolic as heck to muscle. Thyroid increases creatine transport, ATP, and receptor site sensitivity to GH, IGF-1 and 2.

I would think M1T with a dash of thyroid would be a hella cutting stack. The headacnes might be a bit extreme. I never got em on T3, but after 2 weeks on M1T, I start to get nasty HAs.

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I would think M1T with a dash of thyroid would be a hella cutting stack. The headacnes might be a bit extreme. I never got em on T3, but after 2 weeks on M1T, I start to get nasty HAs.

Headaches come from increased blood pressure. Take some supps like hawthorne berry to combat this.

I was, didn't help. Funny thing was it seemed that test actually dropped my BP, M1T made it unbearable the 2nd time around.

Never got a headache from M 1-t, but it makes my stomach always feel full and I rarely want to eat...excellent for dieting phases I guess!

FWIW, Hawthorne Berry needs 6 weeks to start having an effect...it's cheap enough to take year-round.