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i was wondering if i was the only supplement-free lifter here?
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One guy at the gym I go to is absolutely massive and claims he doesen't use any supps, including protein shakes. Works his ass off though and practically lives at the place. Some people just have good genetics I guess.
what do you mean lifes at this place all the best pros including mister O. just lifts like 90 minutes a day the rest is dieting and freaking........dieting ... resting eating and discipline man
that guys is full of shit unless he is some kind of genetic mutant man....but you never know thats just what i think
also usually the guys who say the use nothing at all probobly shoot themselfes in the ass with gear every morning............
thats just my opinion, god knows that i would use roids if i just had the guts
i really don't see why it matters. supplements really don't help that much (i do not conside pro-hormones and prosteriods supps). thats why they are "supplements" b/c the supplement you lifting. i don't know why people are like: " a-ha, i don't use supplements" (which is often an excuse for their body) like supps. are juice or something. i sometimes take supps. and sometimes i don't. most of the times i do anyway, they really don't do anything. oh well, protein shakes and ecy are good tho.


a lot of people think that all supplements don't work which is incorrect, but there are surely a lot which do not work at all.Originally Posted by Vise
there are a lot of effectice supplements on the market with proven medical study behind them. most people do not know how to use them effectively and/or they expect too much out of them...
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
very true. as i said, i've have used some good supps. just not very many. i am also frustrated that i have tried almost creatine product know to man w/o success. i am a non-responder and this is where most of my anger spouts from (the wasted cash).
try meta-cell its expensive as shit but it helped me more than any creatine i took, just buy it at gnc and return it after like 29 day for ur money back
fuck gnc
even v-12 didn't do anything for me and i doubt meta-cell will help but i just might do it to spite gnc for all the times i got ripped off. thanks.


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I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
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