ZMA works well for me in promoting sleep.
Looking For Something To Aid In Sleep And Possible Give Some Muscle Building Benefits As Well...also I Read Somewhere That Melatonin Can Lower Test Levels??anybody Hear That Too? Thx


ZMA works well for me in promoting sleep.
Zma Would Not Get In The Way At All Of Pct Would It ? Thx


melatonin may help you get to sleep but it has no direct effect on increasing test levels like ZMA. for many it also makes them a little groggy upon waking.Originally Posted by scott castle
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
I take either ZMA or Melatonin. Both get me into some good sleep. I wonder what would happen if I took both at the same time? LOL, I may never wake up!
Though I have never tried it one of my freinds swears by 5-HTP as a sleep aid.
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So You Guys Think Zma Would Be Ok With My Pct?? (nolva,hcg)


no problem...you can use ZMA for the rest of your life
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
What's good for a GIRL to take.. I don't want any extra testosterone!
I am so tired![]()
I can do it
I WILL be a size 5.
take the melatonin.
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"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few."
-Buddha's Little Instruction Book
Try 5-HTP or Valerian. They aren't anabolic but are great for sleep. Lack of sleep will negatively affect your test levels, so they may help indirectly build muscle if you're sleep deficient.
Melatonin works pretty well for me. Make sure you get a sublingual form.
Ive never used it, but ive heard great things about 5-HTP. Just be careful about using it with anti-depressents.
Melatonin definatly promotes sleep better than ZMA. Valerian root is also a great sleepaid. Alot of companys also have sleep aid stacks, with different herbal sleep aids, b-6, and other vitamins that promote sleep.
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I use GABA


according to who ? for some people kava kava works better than both of them...Originally Posted by plouffe
melatonin doesn't do shit for me...
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
I don't see any reason why greeky (or any woman) shouldn't take ZMA.Originally Posted by greekblondechic
Am I missing something?
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If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- 14th Dalai Lama


there is no reason why she can't take it...woman can reap the benefits from ZMA just like men can. I think she is concerned with gaining to much LBM which will not happen from just ZMA usage...Originally Posted by nikegurl
I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.
gotcha.![]()
if only it were that easy to gain lbm....
Last edited by nikegurl; 07-06-2004 at 06:10 PM.
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