Thread: Igf-1

Just agree with him, then laugh when he drops a few grand on salty milk.

Since it is not really a supplement I dont see anyone here probably having much for you, but it would be interesting to know just for the worthlessness of it all I suppose.

LR3 IGF-1 is patented so most people putting it out are infringing upon that and selling it illegally.

Good luck

Originally Posted by Vise

alright, someone on another board is trying to tell me that igf-1 is orally bioavailable in milk. its time for some verbal ass whoopage. anyone one got some good articles? i'm going to hit pub-med.

they sell it at Walmart. it's right next to the oral gh tablets..lol

i am laughing at this guy. here are his claims, claims he makes w/o backing them up:

"I am not thinking about any 1995 study? And milk DOES have a properties that allows the hormones to survive digestion. Come on now, why do you think that milk contains hormones in the first place? Duh?

You are also wrong in thinking that the amount of IGF-1 in milk won't affect the IGF-1 levels in your blood. Just drinking a big glass of milk everyday can double the amount of unbound IGF-1 circulating in your blood stream. Our bodies contain both bound and unbound IGF-1, most of it is bound, around 95% if I am not mistaken. But if you consume lots of milk products you will have much higher than normal unbound IGF-1 in you.

There are not many studies about this out there, most people don't even know that milk contain growth hormones. The only known hormone that can be assimilated by humans found so far is IGF-1.

Ever heard of a book called "Super Squats: How to Gain 30 Pounds of Muscle in 6 Weeks"? Squats and milk? Afaik, milk IS known as a great weight gainer already? "

i have told him milk was a good weight gainer b/c of its macro-nutrient profile. oh well.

I saw it a Walmart also. It was next to the Condoms behind the glas case !

Originally Posted by Vise

i am laughing at this guy. here are his claims, claims he makes w/o backing them up:

"I am not thinking about any 1995 study? And milk DOES have a properties that allows the hormones to survive digestion. Come on now, why do you think that milk contains hormones in the first place? Duh?

You are also wrong in thinking that the amount of IGF-1 in milk won't affect the IGF-1 levels in your blood. Just drinking a big glass of milk everyday can double the amount of unbound IGF-1 circulating in your blood stream. Our bodies contain both bound and unbound IGF-1, most of it is bound, around 95% if I am not mistaken. But if you consume lots of milk products you will have much higher than normal unbound IGF-1 in you.

There are not many studies about this out there, most people don't even know that milk contain growth hormones. The only known hormone that can be assimilated by humans found so far is IGF-1.

Ever heard of a book called "Super Squats: How to Gain 30 Pounds of Muscle in 6 Weeks"? Squats and milk? Afaik, milk IS known as a great weight gainer already? "

i have told him milk was a good weight gainer b/c of its macro-nutrient profile. oh well.

milk is high on the insulin index that is why it helps so many people gain weight. however don't expect to stay lean while drinking gallons of milk a day unless you are a ectomorph...

Originally Posted by Vise

...You are also wrong in thinking that the amount of IGF-1 in milk won't affect the IGF-1 levels in your blood. Just drinking a big glass of milk everyday can double the amount of unbound IGF-1 circulating in your blood stream. Our bodies contain both bound and unbound IGF-1, most of it is bound, around 95% if I am not mistaken. But if you consume lots of milk products you will have much higher than normal unbound IGF-1 in you.

There are not many studies about this out there, most people don't even know that milk contain growth hormones. The only known hormone that can be assimilated by humans found so far is IGF-1....

I knew that IGF-1/growth hormones were used by dairy farmers to double milk production for years now. It would be amazing if it you could increase your own natural levels of hormones by drinking/eating lots of dairy.

If it did increase your own natural levels of hormones above normal would it mean anything when it came to your progress in the gym?? Is there any real science out there concerning this??

it would be great if it were true but there are no know studies confirming this.
have you seen those "mighty mice" (genectically modified mice born w/extremely high igf-1 levels)? those are some jacked mice!

Originally Posted by Vise

...have you seen those "mighty mice" (genectically modified mice born w/extremely high igf-1 levels)? those are some jacked mice!

I've seen "mighty mouse" the one that was genetically modified so that myostatin would not hinder muscle growth. There is this German boy with a myostatin mutation and he is already super big/strong.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Science/...24/512617.html

If IGF-1 is composed of amino acids, then it is a protein hormone and cannot be taken orally. It would be digested. Growth hormones (human, bovine and other mammalian) and insulin are protein hormones and cannot be taken orally. So all the hype about growth hormones in milk is bogus. They won't make it past your stomach.

http://arbl.cvmbs.colostate.edu/hboo...ypopit/gh.html