Thread: Anabolic-Matrix Rx

I noticed you also posted this in the Anabolic forum. You'll probably get flamed for not planning your cycle and not having Nolvadex in hand. What would have happened if you'd gotten gyno mid cycle? Do you not care about 'deca dick' and losing your gains due to poor PCT? Prince's product looks pretty solid but isn't effective as Nolvadex or Clomid. I wouldn't even consider taking anything else for PCT (perhaps the exeption is 6-OXO in a squeeze). Just get Nolva, it's cheap and easy to find.

Originally Posted by redspy

I noticed you also posted this in the Anabolic forum. You'll probably get flamed for not planning your cycle and not having Nolvadex in hand. What would have happened if you'd gotten gyno mid cycle? Do you not care about 'deca dick' and losing your gains due to poor PCT? Prince's product looks pretty solid but isn't effective as Nolvadex or Clomid. I wouldn't even consider taking anything else for PCT (perhaps the exeption is 6-OXO in a squeeze). Just get Nolva, it's cheap and easy to find.

Redspy is right. You will have to excuse his manners, though. He has been hanging out with those assholes at anabolicminds.com who want to hang everyone short of an expert on everything. Your post does show extremely poor planning. I highly suggest you do some serious research. Learn to use the advanced search option on this forum. I just did, and it helps me not look like too much of an idiot on the board. Redspy, get some rest and be your usual charming self tomorrow. lol!

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Redspy, get some rest and be your usual charming self tomorrow. lol!

With you around I don't need to be charming, I'll just wait for you to post and apologize for me We could be Good Cop - Bad Cop.

As long as I get to be the bad cops sometimes, we got a deal!

Originally Posted by CarguyJB163

i want to try this product as a post-cycle to help after my Deca/Sauce stack and it says to use 6 caps per day if using for the post-cycle but how many pills are in one and how many do i need for post-cycle? NO, i don't have clomid or nolvadex it expired

it should work great for PCT, I recommend 6 caps for PCT, 3 AM and 3 PM.

the benefit of Anabolic-Matrix over just an anti-e is it stimulates LH production which signals the testes to produce testosterone. it also contains Chrysin and DIM, more info on the ingrediants are on the site.

http://ironmaglabs.com/anabolic-matrix.html

at 6 caps per day for 4 weeks you need 3 bottles.

well hell! what now? Im fixing to start my first cycle of S1+ and already have a 2 bottles of 6-oxo on hand for post.....so which is it? Nolva, 6-oxo or this new stuff?

Anabolic-Matrix is the only one out of the three that will directly stimulate LH production. 6-OXO would be a good combo with Anabolic-Matrix.

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

Anabolic-Matrix is the only one out of the three that will directly stimulate LH production. 6-OXO would be a good combo with Anabolic-Matrix.

I've not seen human studies to back that up. However, Nolvadex and Clomid stimulate the heightened release of GnRH (Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone). LH output by the pituitary will be increased as a result, which in turn can increase the level of testosterone by the testes. So Nolva/Clomid can do this indirectly.

well everywhere Ive read most do 6-oxo ofr post and are fine after. I guess to each thier own? Im ready to start my cycle and want whats good for me.

Redspy is right. Nolvadex and Clomid are tried and true. 6-oxo is also, but is not as effective as the aforementioned prescription drugs. The Anabolic-Matirx would be much better than taking nothing. 2 bottles of 6-oxo will work fine. It is what I have always used, as it is the best over-the-counter PCT period. Prince would have told you that 3 weeks ago (no offense intended, Bro). Begin PCT the day after your cycle ends. It should look something like this:

Week 1: 3 caps/morning, 3 caps/night
Week 2: 2 caps/morn, 3/night
Week 3: 4 caps/night
week 4: 3 caps/night (until supply is gone)

Of course if you want, it couldn't hurt to throw in the Anabolic Matrix-$$ on top of that. However, it isn't necessary if you have 2 bottles of 6-oxo. Since Deca is juice, you should have had Nolvadex or Clomid for PCT on hand. But, 6-oxo is next best. If you are going to buy something extra for PCT, get this: http://customnutritionwarehouse.com/...products_id=50 It is well worth the investment. It is just another name for Nolvadex.

THats actually pretty cheap but it says they are out. So that is the same thing as NOLVA? It doesnt really give a good description of the product. Anywhere I can read about this? I sell my 2 bottles of 6-oxo to a freind and get this if it is better.

thanks for the info!

Originally Posted by redspy

However, Nolvadex and Clomid stimulate the heightened release of GnRH (Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone). LH output by the pituitary will be increased as a result, which in turn can increase the level of testosterone by the testes. So Nolva/Clomid can do this indirectly.

True, indirectly they will, but I guess it also depends on whether you're looking for an Rx product or OTC product.

Originally Posted by JCH

THats actually pretty cheap but it says they are out. So that is the same thing as NOLVA? It doesnt really give a good description of the product. Anywhere I can read about this? I sell my 2 bottles of 6-oxo to a freind and get this if it is better.

thanks for the info!

If it is an option, sell the 6-oxo and buy Tamoxifen Citrate (Nolvadex). There are plenty of places you can order it from besides that link I gave you. But, I think they do have some in stock--even though the site says otherwise. You could call. Here is another reputable source: http://lionnutrition.com/shop/produc...9b64257d825414 . You can read more about how to dose here: Prohormone / Prosteroid FAQ - Everything You Need to Know! . As it says on that link, your PCT should be like this:
Nolvadex:
Week 1-2 – 40mg daily
Week 2-4 – 20mg daily
Another good American sourse is physicalenhancment.com. You may have to call in your order, but it is cheap and you will get free shipping if you tell them the discount code = amrules. I don't know how you use your dick for anything other pissing on that stack, though. Strange.

i thought that nolvadex was only in a pill form? does it matter where u shoot it in at? and how much shuld u order for PCT?

Originally Posted by CarguyJB163

i thought that nolvadex was only in a pill form? does it matter where u shoot it in at? and how much shuld u order for PCT?

Prescription nolvadex only comes in tabs. Liquid nolva is sold as a liquid in order to classify it as a "research chemical," which allows it to be sold without a prescription as long as it isnt marketed for consumption.

And no, you dont inject it. You take it orally.

Originally Posted by CarguyJB163

i thought that nolvadex was only in a pill form? does it matter where u shoot it in at? and how much shuld u order for PCT?

Read the stickys at the tops of the anabolic and supplement forums. Shoot it down your throat. It comes with everything necessary to accomplish this task. Should you need directions how to put a drop of liquid in your mouth and swallow, call your mother and ask her how you did when you were a baby. You must do some research.

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Read the stickys at the tops of the anabolic and supplement forums. Shoot it down your throat. It comes with everything necessary to accomplish this task. Should you need directions how to put a drop of liquid in your mouth and swallow, call your mother and ask her you did when you were a baby. You must do some research.

Pirate plays Bad Cop. I like it!

Originally Posted by redspy

Pirate plays Bad Cop. I like it!

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I don't know how you use your dick for anything other pissing on that stack, though. Strange.

Can you pitch a tent?

Pirate! thanks for the info on the nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) I purchased from the link you gave me and the shipping was free.
I gave one of my bottles of 6-oxo to my friend and now have 1 bottle of 6-oxo and the bottle of 50ml Tamoxifen Citrate coming so Im should be all set for my PCT. I would much rather have what I need on hand just incase...

That should be all I need? for PCT?

One bottle should be fine for 4 weeks PCT. Here's what I took for my last PCT

Week 1 - 40mg
Week 2 - 30mg
Week 3 - 20mg
Week 4 - 20mg

Take it all at once, Tamox has a long half-life so there's no need to take it more than once per day.