I Am Seeing Results!

**Prince** · 08-02-2004, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME

you said it wont really help cause i am 17. and i know my test levels are high. i am horny 24-7 every day. what teen isnt.

oh yes, sorry I forget....

NEW_IN_THE_GAME · 08-02-2004, 02:00 PM

thats all good. its just i am mking good gains, but i used to make those without using supps. i want an extreme boost without the risk of losing my nuts, my hair, or gaining tits.

**Prince** · 08-02-2004, 03:46 PM

well, for the record Tribulus, or my product, will not cause testicle shrinkage, although it could ultimately interfere with HPTA that is why I say cycle it.

Vise · 08-03-2004, 01:05 AM

although i am 18, i may consider taking it. as an ex-football player with a nearly non-existent pain threshold, i train like an animal. i know no other way.
shit, as a senior i was about to be on the starting line-up with a herniated disk and a crack in my spine (i did not realize i had this at the time, i went to the doctor eventualli). i sometimes couldn't use my right arm b/c my biceps tendon was swelling to the limits of my shoulder capsule.
but enough "war stories" and onto the point: this is where i worry, is my habitual bodily abuse draining my test levels? i am always borderline overtraining. should i just get a test level done at the doctor's office?

MTN WARRIOR · 08-03-2004, 06:54 AM

Dude, you are 18, you ARENT ALLOWED war stories. I've had bouts of diarahea longer than you have been alive. Habitual body abuse???? LMAO. Someone needs to take the train to Humbletown, or maybe the bus to Yeahrightville.

**Pirate!** · 08-03-2004, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MTN WARRIOR

Dude, you are 18, you ARENT ALLOWED war stories. I've had bouts of diarahea longer than you have been alive. Habitual body abuse???? LMAO. Someone needs to take the train to Humbletown, or maybe the bus to Yeahrightville.

thejames · 08-03-2004, 10:06 AM

Why exactly does ANABOLIC-MATRIX Rx need to be cycled if it is herbal? Also it can cause acne and increased facial and body hair, but not gyno and testicular atrophy? Would an increase in body and facial hair be permanent if it did occur, and how likely is it to happen? I bought ZMA because I was looking for a natural way to boost testerone levels. I feel as though ZMA does not do anything in this reguard, however, I still think it is a good product because it helps you get a better nights sleep. Well I am just looking for an answer to these questions because I am willing to try this product to see if it can do what it is stated to do.

Monolith · 08-03-2004, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by thejames

Why exactly does ANABOLIC-MATRIX Rx need to be cycled if it is herbal? Also it can cause acne and increased facial and body hair, but not gyno and testicular atrophy? Would an increase in body and facial hair be permanent if it did occur, and how likely is it to happen? I bought ZMA because I was looking for a natural way to boost testerone levels. I feel as though ZMA does not do anything in this reguard, however, I still think it is a good product because it helps you get a better nights sleep. Well I am just looking for an answer to these questions because I am willing to try this product to see if it can do what it is stated to do.

Cocaine is herbal too. That means i can just keep snorting it forever, right? herbal = safe!

**Prince** · 08-03-2004, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by thejames

Why exactly does ANABOLIC-MATRIX Rx need to be cycled if it is herbal? Also it can cause acne and increased facial and body hair, but not gyno and testicular atrophy? Would an increase in body and facial hair be permanent if it did occur, and how likely is it to happen? I bought ZMA because I was looking for a natural way to boost testerone levels. I feel as though ZMA does not do anything in this reguard, however, I still think it is a good product because it helps you get a better nights sleep. Well I am just looking for an answer to these questions because I am willing to try this product to see if it can do what it is stated to do.

Do you realize that many herbal extracts are just a potent as some Rx drugs?

Anabolic-Matrix Rx can ultmately interfere with HPTA because it stimulates the pituitary gland to produce more LH, LH signals the testes to produce more testosterone. And this is why it does not cause testicular shrinkage, as far as gyno if you take enough it could cause gyno because estrogen levels will raise as T levels raise. However the Chrysin and DIM in Anabolic-Matrix do help control estrogen levels, so gyno is not likely to occur. Also, this product is only going to get your T levels to a high normal, in the 800-1000ng range, whereas a steroid will put T levels way beyond that.

It does not surprise me that ZMA did nothing for you, unless you're deficient in zinc and magnesium it won't, but ZMA does help promote deeper sleep. I found it funny that Instone put ZMA in their Forza-T product, I guess they thought it looked good to put it on the label.

thejames · 08-03-2004, 11:55 AM

Monolith, was that comment supposed to impress me? It was not like I was doubting that it needed to be cycled. Or did not understand that just because something is herbal does not mean that it is safe or potent. The question was asked obviously in a logical series of questions trying to identify the risks associated with it. Understanding why exactly it needs to be cycled helps me understand the product better.

Prince, thanks for taking the time to answer the questions. It only reinforces what I have seen in previous posts where you take the time to answer questions without being an idiot or a smartass. I am going to give this product a try, I just need to get some extra cash first.

**Prince** · 08-03-2004, 12:16 PM

no problem, if you have any other questions about it feel free to ask here or a PM.

1Fast400 · 08-03-2004, 08:25 PM

I'll have it for 24.99 soon

JCH · 08-03-2004, 09:59 PM

Im am getting ready to start a 4 week cycle of S1+...and do PCT with liquid nolva. Can your product be taken at the same time I am taking S1? will it have a reverse reaction and not allow the S1 to give me the gains im expecting...or should I wait and take it with my PCT of nolva? Im so scared of all the sides that I have read about and just want to do whatever it takes to not get any but still get the gains....

**Prince** · 08-04-2004, 12:09 AM

You could do either, my product can definitely help to keep your testes producing rather than shutting down when on the cycle, and/or you could use it for PCT, a great combo would be Anabolic-Matrix along with 6-OXO for PCT.

JCH · 08-04-2004, 11:39 AM

So taking your product while at the same time doing a cycle of S1+ will not hender me gaining anything from the TEST? but will help keeping my own testes from shutting down completely? I want the gains but dont want the sides. How many pills a day of your stuff to stack with S1?

I already have a bottle of 6-oxo and a bottle of nolva so I will use that for PCT....

redspy · 08-04-2004, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JCH

... I want the gains but dont want the sides.

Famous last words

topolo · 08-04-2004, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Fast400

I'll have it for 24.99 soon

Well now we know what kind of mark up Rob has

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CHING CHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Prince** · 08-04-2004, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JCH

So taking your product while at the same time doing a cycle of S1+ will not hender me gaining anything from the TEST? but will help keeping my own testes from shutting down completely? I want the gains but dont want the sides. How many pills a day of your stuff to stack with S1?

that is what I am proposing, yes.

As your testosterone and estrogen levels rise from using the S1+ in a simple explanation the pituitary gland will stop it's production of LH (luteinizing hormone), LH is the hormone that signals the testes to produce more testosterone, once the LH stops the testes begin to shut down.

If you use Anabolic-Matrix Rx it will continue to help stimulate the pituitary gland so LH continues to be produced, thus the testes keep producing testosterone. Also, the Chrysin and DIM will help to control estrogen levels as well as prevent excess testosterone being converted to estrogen and DHT.

Now please know that there have been no real studies of Tribulus in this particular scenario (nor have I tested it), I am drawing conclusions based on theory here. I would recommend you use 6 caps of Anabolic-Matrix per day starting half way thru the cycle, not from the very beginning of the cycle, 3 caps AM and 3 caps PM, and continue it at least one week after the cycle.

**Prince** · 08-04-2004, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by topolo

Well now we know what kind of mark up Rob has

.

CHING CHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah, so now I am only $5,200 in debt from making this product, rather than $5,500.
my point being I am a long way from turning a profit, maybe in another year, until than it's nothing but debt. of course I see it as an investment that will ultimately pay off.

**Pirate!** · 08-04-2004, 01:42 PM

Prince, If you tell me that in your opinion, Anabolic Matix-RX will increase my natural testosterone production better than any other natural/herbal supplement on the market, I'll buy at least one bottle today. Is this your opinion?

Luke9583 · 08-04-2004, 01:58 PM

I have been advertising for ya.... hoping to go in with a group of buddies so I can order 8 or 12 bottles.

**Prince** · 08-04-2004, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Prince, If you tell me that in your opinion, Anabolic Matix-RX will increase my natural testosterone production better than any other natural/herbal supplement on the market, I'll buy at least one bottle today. Is this your opinion?

I am 100% confident in the product, formula, and the quality of ingrediants used, but to say better than all others on the market would not be an honest claim simply because I have not tested every other product on the market.

**Prince** · 08-04-2004, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke9583

I have been advertising for ya.... hoping to go in with a group of buddies so I can order 8 or 12 bottles.

thank you.

NEW_IN_THE_GAME · 08-04-2004, 02:15 PM

Esrlier U Said Normal Tests Are 800 -1000 / My Doc Said Mine Were 1250 - That Was Befoe I Used Supps T Oworkout. Was Up With That. Is This Cause I Young.

kvyd · 08-04-2004, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NEW_IN_THE_GAME

Esrlier U Said Normal Tests Are 800 -1000 / My Doc Said Mine Were 1250 - That Was Befoe I Used Supps T Oworkout. Was Up With That. Is This Cause I Young.

Yes.

08-02-2004, 03:46 PM	#33
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 34,003 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	well, for the record Tribulus, or my product, will not cause testicle shrinkage, although it could ultimately interfere with HPTA that is why I say cycle it.
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08-03-2004, 06:54 AM	#35
MTN WARRIOR HOOAH!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOOAHVILLE Posts: 604	Dude, you are 18, you ARENT ALLOWED war stories. I've had bouts of diarahea longer than you have been alive. Habitual body abuse???? LMAO. Someone needs to take the train to Humbletown, or maybe the bus to Yeahrightville.
	THAT WHICH DOES NOT KILL ME, CERTAINLY MUST MAKE ME STRONGER

08-03-2004, 10:06 AM	#37
thejames Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 79	Why exactly does ANABOLIC-MATRIX Rx need to be cycled if it is herbal? Also it can cause acne and increased facial and body hair, but not gyno and testicular atrophy? Would an increase in body and facial hair be permanent if it did occur, and how likely is it to happen? I bought ZMA because I was looking for a natural way to boost testerone levels. I feel as though ZMA does not do anything in this reguard, however, I still think it is a good product because it helps you get a better nights sleep. Well I am just looking for an answer to these questions because I am willing to try this product to see if it can do what it is stated to do.
thejames Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 79

08-03-2004, 11:55 AM	#40
thejames Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 79	Monolith, was that comment supposed to impress me? It was not like I was doubting that it needed to be cycled. Or did not understand that just because something is herbal does not mean that it is safe or potent. The question was asked obviously in a logical series of questions trying to identify the risks associated with it. Understanding why exactly it needs to be cycled helps me understand the product better. Prince, thanks for taking the time to answer the questions. It only reinforces what I have seen in previous posts where you take the time to answer questions without being an idiot or a smartass. I am going to give this product a try, I just need to get some extra cash first.
thejames Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 79

08-03-2004, 12:16 PM	#41
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 34,003 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	no problem, if you have any other questions about it feel free to ask here or a PM.
	SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips! HumaneVoLabs - Foaming Transdermal Delivery System. Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL (CEE) On Sale $17.49 per bottle!

08-02-2004, 02:00 PM	#32
NEW_IN_THE_GAME Pic is at 263-14% jan 06 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sioux Falls South Dakota Posts: 1,138	thats all good. its just i am mking good gains, but i used to make those without using supps. i want an extreme boost without the risk of losing my nuts, my hair, or gaining tits.

08-03-2004, 01:05 AM	#34
Vise thai fighter Join Date: May 2004 Location: NY Posts: 231	although i am 18, i may consider taking it. as an ex-football player with a nearly non-existent pain threshold, i train like an animal. i know no other way. shit, as a senior i was about to be on the starting line-up with a herniated disk and a crack in my spine (i did not realize i had this at the time, i went to the doctor eventualli). i sometimes couldn't use my right arm b/c my biceps tendon was swelling to the limits of my shoulder capsule. but enough "war stories" and onto the point: this is where i worry, is my habitual bodily abuse draining my test levels? i am always borderline overtraining. should i just get a test level done at the doctor's office?

08-03-2004, 08:25 PM	#42
1Fast400 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Burlington, NC 27215 Posts: 278	I'll have it for 24.99 soon
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08-03-2004, 09:59 PM	#43
JCH Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 35	Im am getting ready to start a 4 week cycle of S1+...and do PCT with liquid nolva. Can your product be taken at the same time I am taking S1? will it have a reverse reaction and not allow the S1 to give me the gains im expecting...or should I wait and take it with my PCT of nolva? Im so scared of all the sides that I have read about and just want to do whatever it takes to not get any but still get the gains....
JCH Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 35

08-04-2004, 12:09 AM	#44
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 34,003 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	You could do either, my product can definitely help to keep your testes producing rather than shutting down when on the cycle, and/or you could use it for PCT, a great combo would be Anabolic-Matrix along with 6-OXO for PCT.
	SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips! HumaneVoLabs - Foaming Transdermal Delivery System. Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL (CEE) On Sale $17.49 per bottle!

08-04-2004, 11:39 AM	#45
JCH Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 35	So taking your product while at the same time doing a cycle of S1+ will not hender me gaining anything from the TEST? but will help keeping my own testes from shutting down completely? I want the gains but dont want the sides. How many pills a day of your stuff to stack with S1? I already have a bottle of 6-oxo and a bottle of nolva so I will use that for PCT....
JCH Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 35

08-04-2004, 01:58 PM	#51
Luke9583 Lucky Luke Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: idaho Posts: 5,379 Photos: 9	I have been advertising for ya.... hoping to go in with a group of buddies so I can order 8 or 12 bottles.
	New goal for 2005, 190lbs @ 7% bf "She Blew my nose, and then she blew my mind"

08-04-2004, 02:15 PM	#54
NEW_IN_THE_GAME Pic is at 263-14% jan 06 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sioux Falls South Dakota Posts: 1,138	Esrlier U Said Normal Tests Are 800 -1000 / My Doc Said Mine Were 1250 - That Was Befoe I Used Supps T Oworkout. Was Up With That. Is This Cause I Young.

08-04-2004, 02:20 PM	#56
NEW_IN_THE_GAME Pic is at 263-14% jan 06