m1t libido loss

**babylon** · 08-11-2004, 01:13 AM

Im going to start a cycle of m1t and 4ad. im just trying to figure out how much trandermal 4-ad i should take to help with the lethargy and libido loss caused by the 20mg m1t. Should I take 200mg of transdermal 4-ad or should i take 400mg? any insight on this is appreciated

**Luke9583** · 08-11-2004, 06:15 AM

How old are ya? Beleive it or not, I didn't use any 4 derm on my 20mg, 3 week cycle. I was hurtin' tho. More so from depression than loss of libido. I never quite lost "all" of it

.

I"m 20 tho.

**Pirate!** · 08-11-2004, 06:19 AM

If you are taking 20 mg/day of M1T, take between 150-200 mg of 4-ad twice daily. This worked well for me. Just make sure you shake the 4-ad bottle, apply right. let dry, don't sweat off, etc....

**BIG C** · 08-11-2004, 07:27 AM

I didn't notice any loss at all. All I took was the M1T. I was very tired though, but I worked a lot of overtime at work during the same time

I did 3 weeks on. I am currently on a 2 week break and going for 3 more on.

One thing was the pumps on this. They were so intense they actually hurt. If you thought side laterals gave you a pump in your shoulders before, just wait!

**largepkg** · 08-11-2004, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Just make sure you shake the 4-ad bottle, apply right.

Shake?

Maybe this is why I'm sitting here naked, contemplating life with a pair of scissors in my hand right now...

**Luke9583** · 08-11-2004, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by BIG C

I did 3 weeks on. I am currently on a 2 week break and going for 3 more on.

NO PCT!??!?!?!?!

**muscleflexin** · 08-11-2004, 08:33 AM

I only took 10 mg of M1T per day and needed 200mg
of 4Derm daiy from day 3 till the end of my two week cycle.

Not sure if 20 mg I would need more. But some people say they
don't need any 4AD on M1T, so I guess you'll just have to see what makes you feel the best.

**Pirate!** · 08-11-2004, 08:52 AM

I felt best once I started taking 4-5 sprays twice daily of 4-derm. You don't need it until day 3, but you might as well start them at the same time. You will be real horny for 3 days.

**Pirate!** · 08-11-2004, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by BIG C

One thing was the pumps on this. They were so intense they actually hurt. If you thought side laterals gave you a pump in your shoulders before, just wait!

I was doing creatine at the same time. My deltoids were sore before I even started side laterals (I do them last). I didn't attribute it to the pump, but it was only like that on the m1t. No problem now.

**Purdue Power** · 08-11-2004, 09:08 AM

Ya, I was wondering if I will need much 4Derm if any at all when I start my M1T. I never had any energy or labido loss on 1AD, but quite the opposite. I will probably do a couple sprays twice a day for good measure, just to make sure.

**babylon** · 08-11-2004, 12:15 PM

thanks. whats the difference between LGP and normal 4ad? whats the best stack with m1t? which one is better - in pill form or luquid?

**Monolith** · 08-11-2004, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Luke9583

NO PCT!??!?!?!?!

x2

**babylon** · 08-11-2004, 01:24 PM

which is more preferable - pill form or luquid?

**Luke9583** · 08-11-2004, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by babylon

which is more preferable - pill form or luquid?

What does it matter, if you grow boobs and never naturally produce testosterone again?

**Pirate!** · 08-11-2004, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by babylon

which is more preferable - pill form or luquid?

transdermal 4-AD is what you want.

**Pirate!** · 08-11-2004, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Purdue Power

Ya, I was wondering if I will need much 4Derm if any at all when I start my M1T. I never had any energy or labido loss on 1AD, but quite the opposite. I will probably do a couple sprays twice a day for good measure, just to make sure.

Trust me, you want > 3 sprays twice daily. 4 is better. I did fine on 1-AD alone, too. M1T is much different.

**babylon** · 08-11-2004, 02:13 PM

i have trouble shopping for transdermal 4ad, the only 4ad i find in luqiud form is methylated 4ad. What brand did you guys use?

**Pirate!** · 08-11-2004, 05:01 PM

This is the perfect one at an awesome price: http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=817

**babylon** · 08-11-2004, 08:44 PM

thanks, bro!

**PreMier** · 08-11-2004, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by babylon

i have trouble shopping for transdermal 4ad, the only 4ad i find in luqiud form is methylated 4ad. What brand did you guys use?

Why would a transdermal be methylated?

Can you provide a link to this please..

**camarosuper6** · 08-11-2004, 08:51 PM

I have a link for it.

www.nosuchthing.com

**PreMier** · 08-11-2004, 09:05 PM

Thats exactly what I was looking for

**Luke9583** · 08-11-2004, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

I have a link for it.

www.nosuchthing.com

Link doesn't work man! get your shit straight

**cappo5150** · 08-11-2004, 09:29 PM

I think i overdid it on the 4AD, i used 5squirts 2x day, and it made me want to hump (almost) every female insight.

**Luke9583** · 08-11-2004, 09:31 PM

use two more, It's all good until you start wanting to (almost) hump the dudes too.

**tucker01** · 08-12-2004, 06:47 AM

Transdermal M4ad it also has 4ad

http://www.legalgear.com/products_LGP4.htm

**ZECH** · 08-12-2004, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Transdermal M4ad it also has 4ad

http://www.legalgear.com/products_LGP4.htm

Yep

**BIG C** · 08-12-2004, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Luke9583

NO PCT!??!?!?!?!

Yeah I'm doing PCT. Should have included that!

**babylon** · 08-12-2004, 05:04 PM

is it ok if i use 6oxo and matrix rx for pct? no access to nolvadex...

**Luke9583** · 08-12-2004, 05:08 PM

yes sir

make sure to start out with 6 caps of 6oxo a day.

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