Biscuit67

Alright I am 18 weigh about 280 but i am pretty thick bench about 350 and squat about 600 so not really all that chunky. Well I play football not really a body builder but I want get bigger and leaner. I need something going help me burn fat and build muscles. I dont really have clue what i need to get. I was thinking that no2 stuff but not sure. I know there alot more to it then a pill I practice for like 3 to 4 hrs a day and lift on top of that also run little when I get home. I dont eat like I should not really alot of change I can do to my diet always on the run. I been lifting off an on since I been 13 teen so I already pretty bulky, I feel up the shoulders on 2x shirt nicely. I dont drink any cokes or anything just water now try stay away from anything fryed or stuff with really high carbs like potatos stuff but ever once in awhile I have some mush potatos. Just really wanting to start making some nice gains on lifts since I been in a peak for awhile and want loss some weight where I will have good defenation.

If you want know any information about me let me know.

Monolith

Fish oil. Multivitamin. Whey.

Beyond that, you need to fix your diet to get lean. There's always ways to improve your diet, even if youre always on the run. Check the nutrition forum. And NO2 is crap.

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Biscuit67

what about products like hydroxycut and acetabonlan lll. Not really wanting take in shakes or anything like that wanting something i just pop a pill and go on. Sorry that I such a newbie, I would read around more but I just dont have time doing homework when I posting right now. I read some heard muscle tech is crap also. I ll check out diet stuff but only really got 30mins to eat lunch and breakfast. Btw Dont need anything going make me gain weight. What about fat burners.

gococksDJS

All those products are made by Muscletech, which is way overpriced. You can find better quality products for half the price, and i hate the fact that in every fitness magazine there are about 6 of those 4 page ad's for new muscletech products that say Jay Cutler owes his success to determination, proper nutrition, and Nitro-Tec. Everyone knows about them because their advertising budget is huge, but they aren't that good, especially at their prices

Du

I agree with Mono when he said fish oil, whey, and a multi. What you eat makes a ton of difference, figure that out before you supplement. And to agree again, Gococks is right on about Muscletech. Their products work, but you can get the same for half the price. You pay 70 dollars for a tub of whey, but 45 of that goes toward advertisements.

You say you cant change your diet much, youre always on the run. You also said you dont like shakes. Maybe try the protein bars? There are tons of good ones out there. I like the Balance Bars as a snack, they have 15gp, 23gc, and 7 gf. Not the best, but good for a snack.

Again though, losing fat is at least 85% diet. Supplements can take the edge off, but its really in your diet. Check out the nutrition forums for some guidance there.

If you want, check out some guggulsterones, theyre good fat burners.

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Biscuit67

thanks for replying and giving me clue.

Biscuit67

Alright read up on the guggulsterones sounds like they may be little unsafe for me since it raise your body temp up. Anyone know some that i can buy from gnc. Cant find any info on fish oil besides its good for the heart. Will somone link a post or give me brief dissciption. On the multi gnc multi for men are good right. As for on bars whats some good ones.