Thread: Incorporating M1T, Nolvadex, Saw Palmetto, and Liver Protection Medicine

You are making a mistake not stacking with trasnsdermal 4-AD, IMO. It is well worth the money. If your M1T is of good quality, you will have a serious lack of energy. What brand of M1T do you have?

I agree, and I know from expirience. Not only lethargy, but sinus infection like symptoms and depression.

The one I got from bulknutrition.com. It is cheap. Here is the other one I saw but did not buy. it is expensive

http://www.methyl-1-test.com/

Could you please recommend, this is not steroid, I am sure you could recommend. Please.



What is trasnsdermal 4-AD, IMO? why do you recommend me those? please give a little bit detail if you can. if not, that is ok. I will buy also 6 oxo. Is it gonna help with the post cycle:

Water retention
Gyno (bitch tits)
Testicular shutdown
A smooth, soft look

Thank You PirateFromHell

Originally Posted by NeedRoidHelp

The one I got from bulknutrition.com. It is cheap. Here is the other one I saw but did not buy. it is expensive

http://www.methyl-1-test.com/

Could you please recommend, this is not steroid, I am sure you could recommend. Please.



What is trasnsdermal 4-AD, IMO? why do you recommend me those? please give a little bit detail if you can. if not, that is ok. I will buy also 6 oxo. Is it gonna help with the post cycle:

Water retention
Gyno (bitch tits)
Testicular shutdown
A smooth, soft look

Thank You PirateFromHell

I presume you got Underground Labs' M1T, then. I encourage you to read the entire sticky oh PH/PS for these answers. IMO = In my opinion. Here is the sticky to read: Prohormone / Prosteroid FAQ - Everything You Need to Know!
M1T is a legal steroid, and is pretty harsh for your first cycle. After reading that sticky and learning more about transdermals, 4-AD, PCT, etc, We will help you put a good beginner's stack together. Don't rush into this. Educate yourself first.

Yes, this is definately not what you want to do for your first stack. You can save it for later down the road(good that you have it now, it will be banned later). You should read the Prohormone/Prosteroid FAQ for sure. I print it out for anyone who comes to me for advice. Read up on the 1AD/4AD stack. It is a tried and trued stack that is perfect for first and second stacks.

Originally Posted by Purdue Power

Read up on the 1AD/4AD stack. It is a tried and trued stack that is perfect for first and second stacks.

I agree that it is a good beginner's stack, but 1-Test/4-AD is better, and that is what S1+ is (already in correct proportions).

Is trasnsdermal 4-AD from this website is what you talk about?

http://www.affordablesupplements.com/lgp_4-ad.asp

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=817

This is cheaper.

And I would wait to use the "liver protectants" untill after the cycle.

Please recommend something from bulknutrition to substitute this product


http://www.affordablesupplements.com/formadrol_v2.asp

Is 4AD enough to stack with M1T and offset the side effect in addition to taking sax and milk thristle

Originally Posted by PreMier

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=817

This is cheaper.

And I would wait to use the "liver protectants" untill after the cycle.

This is a great deal on 4-AD, but you will have to buy something to stack it with (1-AD, or 1-T, or M1T). I still suggest 1-T for your first cycle. S1+ = 1-T and 4-AD together. Are you still leaning towards the M1T?

Yes, will 4AD from bulknutrition help prevent


Water retention
Gyno (bitch tits)
Testicular shutdown
A smooth, soft look

Just link 6oxo or not?

Originally Posted by NeedRoidHelp

Yes, will 4AD from bulknutrition help prevent


Water retention
Gyno (bitch tits)
Testicular shutdown
A smooth, soft look

Just link 6oxo or not?

No, 4-AD can contribute to these. If you run the cycle right, it is very unlikely you will need something for this. But the safe thing to do is to have plenty Tamoxifen Citrate (aka Nolva) before you start the cycle. Ideally, you will use it only for PCT (NOT 6-OXO). But if you start seeing signs of gyno, begin taking the Tamoxifen immediately. M1T will shut you down. No preventing that. You will still be able to perform in bed if you keep enough 4-AD coming in. Don't get 4-AD on chicks, though. They can develop manly characteristics (And I don't mean liking NFL and Hooter's). Know this: the first few weeks of PCT after M1T can be tough compared to 1-Test or 1-AD. Your choice, though. You keep asking questions that are answered in that sticky. Read it for your own good.

Okay, you said you have nolva. Why are you asking about 6-oxo? Nolva is superior.

Originally Posted by NeedRoidHelp

Yes, will 4AD from bulknutrition help prevent


Water retention
Gyno (bitch tits)
Testicular shutdown
A smooth, soft look

Just link 6oxo or not?

I HIGHLY suggest that you read the PH FAQ at the top of the supplement forum. I feel that one should always be educated on something that they take, and I dont feel that you know much at all.

what is the first symptom of bitch tits?

Originally Posted by NeedRoidHelp

what is the first symptom of bitch tits?

When you start to look like a hairy version of Pamela Anderson.

There's a ton of posts on gyno on this forum, run a search. You don't want to end up looking like this guy:-

Gyno?
How long before gyno can start?
GYNO, what is it

Originally Posted by redspy

When you start to look like a hairy version of Pamela Anderson.

There's a ton of posts on gyno on this forum, run a search. You don't want to end up looking like this guy:-

You don't wake up one day with them this bad. This guy didn't do his homework and wasn't prepared.

those are some nice little titties.

Originally Posted by Luke9583

those are some nice little titties.

They could be yours someday!