Thread: 1test/4derm

I finished a 6 week cycle of 1-AD/4-AD about a month ago and have been using 6-oxo for PCT and have been keeping my protein and carb intake higher than when im off cycle, and so far I have lost very little of my gains. When my cycle came to an end I was benching 250 with reps of 4 and now im able to get it 2 times unassisted, so im pretty pleased, but due to the large amount of carbs, i am starting to gain a little weight. I think if you do a proper PCT and keep your protein and carbs up as well as your training intensity, you should keep most of your gains. I know guys who do no PCT and begin cutting by decreasing their carb intake and they lose most of their gains. I have not seen anymore gains like i do on cycle but at least im keeping most of my gains

I recommend a two week clenbuterol cycle beginning the first day of your pct. With Clen, if you keep eating enough and exercising regularly you should keep all but the extra water.

Ya, I was a dumbass after my last ph cycle of 1TU and cut my diet down and lost all of my strength gains. Keep your eating up until your pct is over and do try some clen for the first 2 weeks.

Originally Posted by Purdue Power

Ya, I was a dumbass after my last ph cycle of 1TU and cut my diet down and lost all of my strength gains. Keep your eating up until your pct is over and do try some clen for the first 2 weeks.

Same mistake I made after a 1-AD cycle. I did the two weeks of clen during my M1T PCT and kept calories above maintenance. I kept all the muscle until I got a virus that screwed up my digestive tract the third week. Lost muscle over that week. I now consider clen a must for PCT. You can eat tons and not put on fat--just keep the muscle.

Ya, I am about to wrap up a 2week clen cycle and start an M1T/4Derm cycle and then finish up my bottle of clen during my pct. Gray market kicks ass.

What is CLEN? is that the same as Nolva?

Clen FAQ - http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/sh...ht=clenbuterol

Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator
for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not
FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts
like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants
like ephedrine.

Nolvadex

This substance is tamoxifen like Nolvadex or Tamoxifen.
This drug is a potent nonsteroidal anti-estrogen. It is indicated for use in estrogen dependent tumors, i.e. breast cancer. Steroid users take Nolvadex to prevent the effects of estrogen in the body. This estrogen is most often the result of aromatizing steroids.