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    E/C/A or this

    I don't see what the mg amount of E/C in this is but I think I see 8% on the image sent to me on screen, will I be better off going with a
    25mg E/100-200m C/ A 81mg stack or this product, it's called
    "ThermoGenesis E/C/A stack" also named "Red Rockets" or something stupid like that buy site. I need some help because I want to order rsoon but I want some advise as to what will work best for real great fat loss, I would like to get to about 9-10% as fast as possible keeping health and saftey in mind, diet is ok but needs some work and cardio is half assed though, I have no stamina at all

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    or maybe clen, but I hear it's not that safe in some cases, I'm not effected by stimulants much if that helps

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    Clen is awesome! You will lose the weight as you reduce calories and up cardio, but keep the muscle. E= 25 mg C=100-200 (your preference) A= at least 81 mg. 3 times daily. This is dirt cheap to put together on your own. Do two weeks of clen, then 2 ECA, etc. for up to 8 weeks. You should take a rest then.
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    I found some strong shit, Kaizen ephedrine 60mg. is that just crazy strong or what? stay away right? I also found some 8mg but 25mg is out of stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateFromHell
    Clen is awesome! You will lose the weight as you reduce calories and up cardio, but keep the muscle. E= 25 mg C=100-200 (your preference) A= at least 81 mg. 3 times daily. This is dirt cheap to put together on your own. Do two weeks of clen, then 2 ECA, etc. for up to 8 weeks. You should take a rest then.
    Bump on the clen. It's hard to beat as a fat burner.

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    I think DNP is better than clen
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    don't you need an as with clen? also shouldnt you run t3 for the whole 8 week cycle? is there any prohormone that could replace the as?

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    You don't need any AS with clen. It won't catabolize your muscles. Just don't go on a starvation diet or run for long periods. T3 can lead to muscle wasting without an androgen. There are lots of PH/PS that could be used with T3. I would consider Methly D a good candidate. 1-T would probably work well, too. Clen with a sound diet and exercise program is a great way to drop a few pound of fat in two weeks.
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