Reply With QuoteA 4-AD/Nordiol stack is moderately anabolic combo with low side effects. A 3.5 week cycle is a little short to see optimal results, it's better to run it for 5-6 weeks. Definitely run these two together, a Nordiol only cycle will shut you down and yield minimal gains.
Both of these PHs are superior using transdermal delivery.
4-AD and 19-nor
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08-26-2004, 09:14 PM #1Rhino
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4-AD and 19-nor
I have a friend who picked up a bottle of this 4-ad from a company called "hardcore labs" and some 19-nor-4-diol from sci-fit. I told him there were better stacks but that this wasn't all bad. Thing is, he started a cycle of both and was on for about a week but cycled off because he thought he might be drug tested and didn't wanna risk failing for steroids. So now he has like a 3 and a half week supply of both. My questions is would he better off to run them together or 4-ad followed by 19-nor? Would a cycle that short even be effective? Thanks.
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08-26-2004, 09:59 PM #3Rhino
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Thanks. Like I said I know there's better cycles, but this is what he's got right now.
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4-AD/Nordiol was my first PH cycle, it's a great introduction to androgens. Originally Posted by RCfootball87
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08-26-2004, 10:06 PM #5Rhino
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What were your gains like?
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About 6lbs of LBM and about 5lbs of water. Water weight was lost after PCT. Originally Posted by RCfootball87
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4/ad and 19 nor compete for the same receptor. It is a waste to do them together unless you have money to waste. Also 19 nor is weaker than 4/ad.
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This is hotly debated. I've seen articles by Big Cat and others which state there is receptor enzyme competition which leads to sub optimal results, however, others like Patrick Arnold disagree. I've also read competition is much more likely using transdermals rather than orals. Originally Posted by dg806
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08-27-2004, 09:25 PM #9Rhino
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Did you use 6-oxo for your pct? Originally Posted by redspy
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I used 6-OXO and Nolvadex, which was overkill really. Now I use Nolvadex exclusively. Originally Posted by RCfootball87
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08-28-2004, 11:52 AM #11Rhino
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Nolvadex is illegal right? Originally Posted by redspy
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See this thread - Nolva legality Originally Posted by RCfootball87
You can buy it for "research purposes" from a number of sites.
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