Protein or Amino Acids

**peach_lover** · 09-02-2004, 06:03 AM

Hi every body,,

I have just started using a fat burner containing Ephidrine, To keep my muscle in size I believe that I need to consume more protine, but which one should I use while I am reducing my weight, Poweder Whey Protine or High number of Amino Acid Tablets???

Can You please advice???

**Pirate!** · 09-02-2004, 06:51 AM

If you are weight training, have whey protein with some carbs right after a workout. Either way, it is good to get plenty of protein in your diet to prevent muscle loss--ideally from animal sources.

**peach_lover** · 09-02-2004, 07:18 AM

Ok,, what about other times,, Like first thing in the morining and before bed time,, do you recomend protine or amino acids???

**Pirate!** · 09-02-2004, 07:28 AM

Are you weight lifting? Eat protein with every meal--first thing in the morning and before bed. BCAA can be useful, as can glutamine. Diet is the most important factor, though.

**Flex** · 09-02-2004, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by b_eisa

do you recomend protine or amino acids???

what do you think protein is made of?

if you eat protein (i.e. whey), you get amino acids. bcaa tabs are a waste of $$.

**dihsui** · 09-02-2004, 08:53 AM

There does seem to be quite a few studies on the benefits of essential amino acids when taken around the workout time (esp. for recovery and increasing protein synthesis. I have yet to find a company that puts out an essential amino mix or else I would recommend one so in that case I would suggest a hydrolyzed protein source for the workout times and a protein blend like Pro Blend 55 for the morning and before bedtime.

**Jodi** · 09-02-2004, 09:10 AM

I hope you are taking caffeine with that ephedrine. Ephedrine does not work alone.

BCAA's are pre, during and post workout do provide many benefits. I don't care for the bcaa tabs either which is why I choose to drink mine instead.

**LAM** · 09-02-2004, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by dihsui

There does seem to be quite a few studies on the benefits of essential amino acids when taken around the workout time (esp. for recovery and increasing protein synthesis.

Along with whey protein you can use BCAA's after training. but you need to take a lot around .4 grams per kg of LBM...

**Luke9583** · 09-02-2004, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Jodi

I hope you are taking caffeine with that ephedrine. Ephedrine does not work alone.

I dont think he's takin' ephedrine tabs, I beleive he said a product 'containing' ephedrine. I would assume it would be in a 1:10 ratio with caffeine like all the other thermo's

**Prince** · 09-02-2004, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by b_eisa

...but which one should I use while I am reducing my weight, Poweder Whey Protine or High number of Amino Acid Tablets???

whey protein IS amino acids.

**Pirate!** · 09-02-2004, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Luke9583

I dont think he's takin' ephedrine tabs, I beleive he said a product 'containing' ephedrine. I would assume it would be in a 1:10 ratio with caffeine like all the other thermo's

I assumed it was a she.

**dihsui** · 09-03-2004, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by LAM

Along with whey protein you can use BCAA's after training. but you need to take a lot around .4 grams per kg of LBM...

Here’s a 2002 study indicating that non-essential amino acids (NEAAs) are NOT needed for net muscle protein balance and protein synthesis—only essential amino acids are required:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=12217881

Here’s a study that shows that oral essential amino acids (again, not non-essential amino acids) promote an “anabolic response” (protein synthesis) after resistance exercise as effectively as an infusion. In short, “These results indicate that an oral amino acid supplement [essential amino acids] is just as effective as amino acid infusion for producing hyperaminoacidemia and net muscle protein synthesis”:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=10198297

Here’s a recent study that showed that you only need 6g of essential amino acids to increase anabolism & muscle protein synthesis. The researchers concluded “that ingestion of 6g of EAA [essential amino acids] alone without addition of carbohydrate effectively stimulated muscle protein synthesis after resistance exercise”:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=12217881

**LAM** · 09-03-2004, 04:19 PM

your point is ?

for BODYBUILDERS that is the proven effective dosage...

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