Reply With QuoteIf you made no gains, you screwed up somewhere. That is for you to figure out. Start PCT the first day you don't take the PH/PS. If your nolva is liquid research stuff, start at 60 mg and taper down to 30 mg over 4 weeks. If you have the pills, start at 40, taper to 20 mg a day.
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10-03-2004, 11:28 PM #1Registered User
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pct?
ok i ran a 3 and a half week cycle on m1t/ 4ad should i run the 4ad for 2 more weeks then start the pct or just do the pct and when i start i do 40mgs of nolva right then taper it back like 40 for two weeks 30 for one then 20 for one? just wanna make sure that i have this shit right even though i saw almost no gains and yes i do have my diet in check its been perfect for the last year 300-400 grams of protein a day and all good quality carbs so i know its not cause i fucked off on my diet like those idiots that take m1t and dont know what it is i guess its just crap for me but i know i need to do it all proper and this is my first cycle so any and all help is greatly appreciated
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10-04-2004, 06:16 AM #2Gatekepper ELITE MEMBER
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unbelievalbe. i tried biotest mag-4 or mag-10 a few years back. (dont remember exactly). some ph crap they made. absolute crap. i made no gains.
then i tried s1+. made a lot of gains with very little effort. if worse comes to worse, i think you can just keep your diet (just dont eat less than u did prior to cycle) and you should still make gains easily with s1+.
u said you were using m1t which is supposed to be more potent than s1+...... hard to believe no gains.............
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10-04-2004, 08:13 AM #4Lucky Luke
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Mag10 cannot be compared to m1t. I've run both. There's no comparison. I agree that if he saw no gains, he did something wrong.
I'm finishing up my second m1t cycle. And as the first one, I can 'watch' body parts growm not to metion i'm 14lbs heavier. I'm sure it's mostly water, but it's not fat."If you're not part of the solution, you're the precipitate."
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10-04-2004, 08:21 AM #5Founder of GOSB SUPER MODERATOR
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Could be bad M1T.................which brand is it?
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How many mg's of M1T were you running? At 10mg a day i started getting crazy pumps after about 4 days, so i agree that somethings wrong if you saw no gains.
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10-04-2004, 08:50 AM #7Gatekepper ELITE MEMBER
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Even if the M1T was sugar pills, he would have noticed plenty of water weight on cycle and some noticeable increase in mass just from the 4-AD.
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10-04-2004, 01:29 PM #8Back from the dead
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I can't believe you didn't even hold any water. Thats the first thing I noticed
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10-04-2004, 10:56 PM #9Registered User
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ok i was running 20mgs a day of m1t made by vpx the monster test to be exact, and 5 sprays at eight of 4derm and then 5 more at eight in the evening so 12 hours later and nothing well not nothing i had minor strength increases the last 3 days of my cycle no joke and i have actually had people tell me including my girl friend say i look leaner so i dont know how holding water is going to make me appear leaner
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