1 PH slips through the ban?

gococksDJS · 10-06-2004, 08:14 PM

I read a thread on www.anabolicminds.com that there is one PH slipping through the ban but the guy will only PM which one it is, and due to my low post count over there he won't PM me, so if anyone here knows which one could you PM it to me?

topolo · 10-06-2004, 08:25 PM

I dont know what is with al the cloak and dagger stuff and that guy.....if it stil going to be legal let us know!!!!!!!!

**Pirate!** · 10-06-2004, 09:03 PM

The bill is worded so they can amend the list at their whim, so it doesn't matter.

Du · 10-06-2004, 09:05 PM

I told someone here about it like 3 weeks ago, I didnt think it was new news.

The bill can be amended, but itll take a little while to do so, giving us more time to buy that PS. Its not a PH.

Thats a clue..

gococksDJS · 10-06-2004, 10:17 PM

topolo, i saw that you requested a PM. If he tells you, can you PM me? My name is the same over there as it is here.

topolo · 10-06-2004, 11:09 PM

PM sent

mmorpheuss · 10-07-2004, 04:55 AM

if you could clue me in on it as well I would appreciate it alot.

Thanks

rrgg · 10-07-2004, 08:55 AM

I don't get it. Why didn't you just ask the guy at anabolicminds?

cops25 · 10-07-2004, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS

the guy will only PM which one it is, and due to my low post count over there he won't PM me

He did try asking.

rrgg · 10-07-2004, 09:52 AM

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due to my low post count

Well Mr. Biden, you have more posts than me, so I'll send you a PM.

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I dont know what is with al the cloak and dagger stuff

I can explain it. If you publicly post what's missed by the ban, someone can easily find it with google. If you PM everyone instead, it will be slightly harder to inadvertently tip someone off.

topolo · 10-07-2004, 10:04 AM

well if it can be easily found with google......does it really matter?

**dg806** · 10-07-2004, 10:15 AM

Everyone talk about it so they can add it to the list

**dg806** · 10-07-2004, 10:16 AM

Where is the thread anyway...link?

Du · 10-07-2004, 10:51 AM

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Everyone talk about it so they can add it to the list

My point last time. However, anyone who knows PH/PS's could tell by looking at the list.

**Prince** · 10-07-2004, 10:56 AM

Once the ban takes effect and if a company produces/sells this PH that supposedly is not on the current list how long do you think it will take for them to add it to the list? And based on that, what company would risk producing any PH/PS knowing that they can add any compound to the list at any time? I know I wouldn't.

Du · 10-07-2004, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

Once the ban takes effect and if a company produces/sells this PH that supposedly is not on the current list how long do you think it will take for them to add it to the list? And based on that, what company would risk producing any PH/PS knowing that they can add any compound to the list at any time? I know I wouldn't.

If its the only one left, they can jack up the price and make a lot of money real quick, before the FDA acts on it. I highly doubt placing it on the list would be overnight.... I imagine it would take a couple weeks at least.

**Prince** · 10-07-2004, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by du510

If its the only one left, they can jack up the price and make a lot of money real quick, before the FDA acts on it. I highly doubt placing it on the list would be overnight.... I imagine it would take a couple weeks at least.

If companies had it in stock sure they would continue selling it, but who is dumb enough to produce it? If you have any knowledge or experience producing a supplement you know it is not a quick or cheap process, and to risk producing something and having a bunch of product on hand that you can no longer sell is not really worth what you might be able to sell in this "two week" period before it gets put on the ban list. Also, it will be extremely difficult to get any raw materials to produce any type of PH/PS once this ban goes into effect.

Du · 10-07-2004, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

If companies had it in stock sure they would continue selling it, but who is dumb enough to produce it? If you have any knowledge or experience producing a supplement you know it is not a quick or cheap process, and to risk producing something and having a bunch of product on hand that you can no longer sell is not really worth what you might be able to sell in this "two week" period before it gets put on the ban list. Also, it will be extremely difficult to get any raw materials to produce any type of PH/PS once this ban goes into effect.

Just to clear up what I wrote a litte, I was speaking more on selling, not producing. The PS that is not listed affords the opportunity for price gauging once the ban goes into effect, but I doubt anyone would continue to produce. Sell, yes. But not produce.

**Prince** · 10-07-2004, 12:14 PM

well, sure if it is not on the ban list and a company has it in stock I cannot see why they would not sell it until it became illegal to do so.

rrgg · 10-07-2004, 03:33 PM

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how long do you think it will take for them to add it to the list?

You're assuming it would happen quickly, but you don't know that for sure. Just look at how long this bill took to finally come to a vote. Besides, the bill even explains that Health & Human Services has to submit a review of unbanned substances within 2 years. It's not so crazy to think they'll take the full 2 years to ban even more substances.

Du · 10-07-2004, 03:41 PM

What do you think the chances of new compounds coming out within those 2 years would be? Im sure SOME company would take the risk.

rrgg · 10-07-2004, 03:47 PM

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well if it can be easily found with google......does it really matter?

That's not what I meant. I was saying that if someone posts a list here of unbanned PH/PS, someone can find the ironmagazine posting using google and quickly read the answer without doing much work. If on the other hand you send that info to individuals via PM, then it isn't visible to search engines.

Du · 10-07-2004, 03:51 PM

Also, there is always the chance of some FDA asshole or whatnot simply browsing these forums (to gauge reaction, etc, whatever). That may sound a little paranoid, but thats personally why I am not posting it. Not worth the risk.

I think its okay to talk about because they only made a list of known substances. We all know the fat senators etc dont know much about PH/PS. But we do. So knowing about them, one of us could take a look at the list and know what is not on it. Whereas, one of them, not knowing as much, probably could not.

I hope that made sense.

Purdue Power · 10-07-2004, 03:53 PM

Could somebody please PM me as to the overlooked PS?

Du · 10-07-2004, 03:56 PM

No, youre one of "Them."

rrgg · 10-07-2004, 03:57 PM

Actually I propose deleting this whole thread. The title itself is enough to tip someone off. "Hey Senator Needledick, call Dr. Asshole. We forgot one."

Du · 10-07-2004, 03:58 PM

Is there a way to keep it from being Googled?

**Pirate!** · 10-07-2004, 04:11 PM

Why does it matter? Stock up now. The stuff good for years. How many cycle do you think you are going run without harming your health? Sledge--who runs Designer Supplements--says he will keep producing new products and try to stay ahead. So, everytime they add one to the list, he pulls another out of his pocket. That guy has balls.

10-06-2004, 08:14 PM	#1
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	1 PH slips through the ban? I read a thread on www.anabolicminds.com that there is one PH slipping through the ban but the guy will only PM which one it is, and due to my low post count over there he won't PM me, so if anyone here knows which one could you PM it to me?
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10-06-2004, 09:05 PM	#4
Du Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,085 Photos: 5	I told someone here about it like 3 weeks ago, I didnt think it was new news. The bill can be amended, but itll take a little while to do so, giving us more time to buy that PS. Its not a PH. Thats a clue..
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10-06-2004, 10:17 PM	#5
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	topolo, i saw that you requested a PM. If he tells you, can you PM me? My name is the same over there as it is here.
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10-07-2004, 08:55 AM	#8
rrgg Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 261	I don't get it. Why didn't you just ask the guy at anabolicminds?
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dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,270	Everyone talk about it so they can add it to the list
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10-07-2004, 04:55 AM	#7
mmorpheuss Junior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 39	if you could clue me in on it as well I would appreciate it alot. Thanks

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dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,270	Where is the thread anyway...link?
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10-07-2004, 10:56 AM	#15
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,735 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	Once the ban takes effect and if a company produces/sells this PH that supposedly is not on the current list how long do you think it will take for them to add it to the list? And based on that, what company would risk producing any PH/PS knowing that they can add any compound to the list at any time? I know I wouldn't.
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Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,735 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	well, sure if it is not on the ban list and a company has it in stock I cannot see why they would not sell it until it became illegal to do so.
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10-07-2004, 03:41 PM	#21
Du Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,085 Photos: 5	What do you think the chances of new compounds coming out within those 2 years would be? Im sure SOME company would take the risk.
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10-07-2004, 03:51 PM	#23
Du Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,085 Photos: 5	Also, there is always the chance of some FDA asshole or whatnot simply browsing these forums (to gauge reaction, etc, whatever). That may sound a little paranoid, but thats personally why I am not posting it. Not worth the risk. I think its okay to talk about because they only made a list of known substances. We all know the fat senators etc dont know much about PH/PS. But we do. So knowing about them, one of us could take a look at the list and know what is not on it. Whereas, one of them, not knowing as much, probably could not. I hope that made sense.
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10-07-2004, 03:53 PM	#24
Purdue Power Good Enough Never Is Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Purdue University Posts: 1,351 Photos: 5	Could somebody please PM me as to the overlooked PS?
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10-07-2004, 03:56 PM	#25
Du Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,085 Photos: 5	No, youre one of "Them."
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10-07-2004, 03:57 PM	#26
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10-07-2004, 03:58 PM	#27
Du Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,085 Photos: 5	Is there a way to keep it from being Googled?
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10-07-2004, 04:11 PM	#28
Pirate! Gatekepper Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,726	Why does it matter? Stock up now. The stuff good for years. How many cycle do you think you are going run without harming your health? Sledge--who runs Designer Supplements--says he will keep producing new products and try to stay ahead. So, everytime they add one to the list, he pulls another out of his pocket. That guy has balls.
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