Effectively Using 6-OXO As a PCT

M.J.H. · 10-25-2004, 03:37 PM

How should I take 6-OXO as a PCT from M1T?

I know it's not the strongest, should I up the dose? I was thinking 3 caps 2x per day for 10 days. Then cut it down.

redspy · 10-25-2004, 03:42 PM

With something as strong as M1T I wouldn't even consider using 6-OXO. I'd definitely recommend the use of Nolva, it's cheaper and more effective at kickstarting your HPTA. JMO.

Du · 10-25-2004, 03:46 PM

I agree with Red, but I would also say it depends somewhat on how long and how much M1t you took.

topolo · 10-25-2004, 04:07 PM

use nolva and anabolic matrix!!!

Du · 10-25-2004, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topolo

use nolva and anabolic matrix!!!

Very good advice though.

And in case you need help finding it, here ya go!
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1391

redspy · 10-25-2004, 04:09 PM

du: I'm sure you saw SuperSoldier's blood tests while on M1T, he was completely shutdown after just 3 days of use.

Du · 10-25-2004, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by redspy

du: I'm sure you saw SuperSoldier's blood tests while on M1T, he was completely shutdown after just 3 days of use.

Have you seen anyone with any research to show the halflife of M1t? I still havent, but maybe I just missed something.

M.J.H. · 10-25-2004, 04:27 PM

I have been taking 15mg of M1T for 3 weeks now. Starting 6-OXO tomorrow. I have used 6-OXO in the past after M1T with no problems at all.

I was thinking 3 caps 2x per day? Should I do 4 caps 2x per day instead?

redspy · 10-25-2004, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by du510

Have you seen anyone with any research to show the halflife of M1t? I still havent, but maybe I just missed something.

Most of the posts I've seen on this subject suggest the half-life of M1T is about 5 hours. I've not seen any scientific data to back up this claim.

**Pirate!** · 10-25-2004, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MonStar

I have been taking 15mg of M1T for 3 weeks now. Starting 6-OXO tomorrow. I have used 6-OXO in the past after M1T with no problems at all.

I was thinking 3 caps 2x per day? Should I do 4 caps 2x per day instead?

The recommended dose is 6 caps a day, but more couldn't hurt. I wouldn't do less than that during the whole pct.

Gabby · 10-25-2004, 05:56 PM

What is half life?

M.J.H. · 10-25-2004, 05:58 PM

Okay so maybe 4 caps 2x per day until my 2 bottes of 6-OXO run out?

redspy · 10-25-2004, 06:00 PM

The half-life of a drug is the amount of time it takes before half of the active elements are either eliminated or broken down by the body.

redspy · 10-25-2004, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

The recommended dose is 6 caps a day, but more couldn't hurt. I wouldn't do less than that during the whole pct.

At that rate you'll burn through a bottle every 10 days, which works out to at $90 (at least) for a month. Ouch!

**Pirate!** · 10-25-2004, 06:52 PM

Well, he knows that everyone recommends Nolva. That is a relatively high dose of 6-oxo, but for a M1T cycle I think it is better to aim high. Plus, he didn't pay $30 per bottle. Monstar, I would say that if you only have two bottles, make them last 21 days. Rob's sticky says to do this schedule:

Week 1 – 600mg daily in two divided doses, morning and night
Week 2-3 – 400mg daily
Week 4 – 300mg daily

I don't think that is enough for an M1T PCT, though. I say better safe than sorry. M1T shut me down hard. Not even Nolva helped much.

Tha Don · 10-25-2004, 06:58 PM

man thats crazy!

i'm using nolva on M1T and even S1+, wouldn't even consider using 6-oxo after the shit i've read

M.J.H. · 10-25-2004, 07:01 PM

What's wrong with 6-OXO? I don't understand what's bad about it?

I took 6-OXO in the past as my PCT after M1T and had zero problems. Maybe I am just confused?

The Anabolic Matrix product from BulkNutrition.com I might look into. I am thinking about picking up a bottle of that, and starting it in a few days.

**dg806** · 10-25-2004, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redspy

Most of the posts I've seen on this subject suggest the half-life of M1T is about 5 hours. I've not seen any scientific data to back up this claim.

I have always seen and quoted 6-9 hours

redspy · 10-25-2004, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonStar

What's wrong with 6-OXO? I don't understand what's bad about it?

I took 6-OXO in the past as my PCT after M1T and had zero problems. Maybe I am just confused?

The Anabolic Matrix product from BulkNutrition.com I might look into. I am thinking about picking up a bottle of that, and starting it in a few days.

There's nothing wrong with 6-OXO, it's usually effective at higher doses (600mg+) for general Prohormone PCT. Methylated Prosteroids like M1T shut you very quickly and are high suppressive. Nolvadex has a number of clinical studies proving its effectiveness and is considered by many to be the best PCT drug available.

brokeass122 · 10-27-2004, 10:17 AM

when i ran my m1t cycle i dont think that my test got shut down cause my nuts stayed the same size and didnt suck up on me so is everyone supposed to get shut down completley or is it just user specific

**dg806** · 10-27-2004, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brokeass122

when i ran my m1t cycle i dont think that my test got shut down cause my nuts stayed the same size and didnt suck up on me so is everyone supposed to get shut down completley or is it just user specific

You just didn't know you were shut down. You were not on long enough to get atrophy.

Purdue Power · 10-27-2004, 01:09 PM

I will never use 6OXO again. Like Pirate said, even the Nolva wasn't enough. I had to take some other measures along with it. Nolva is so much cheaper too. It is less for one bottle of it(which will last the whole pct) than it is for one bottle of 6OXO(which takes 2 bottles even for something like a 1AD pct).

gococksDJS · 10-27-2004, 01:15 PM

I don't think 6-OXO is enough either. The nolva was barely enough for me as well. In the future I plan on running HCG with all my M1T cycles.

10-25-2004, 03:37 PM	#1
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10-25-2004, 03:42 PM	#2
redspy Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,040	With something as strong as M1T I wouldn't even consider using 6-OXO. I'd definitely recommend the use of Nolva, it's cheaper and more effective at kickstarting your HPTA. JMO.
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10-25-2004, 03:46 PM	#3
Du Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,085 Photos: 5	I agree with Red, but I would also say it depends somewhat on how long and how much M1t you took.
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10-25-2004, 04:27 PM	#8
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	I have been taking 15mg of M1T for 3 weeks now. Starting 6-OXO tomorrow. I have used 6-OXO in the past after M1T with no problems at all. I was thinking 3 caps 2x per day? Should I do 4 caps 2x per day instead?
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10-25-2004, 05:56 PM	#11
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10-25-2004, 05:58 PM	#12
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	Okay so maybe 4 caps 2x per day until my 2 bottes of 6-OXO run out?
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10-25-2004, 06:00 PM	#13
redspy Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,040	The half-life of a drug is the amount of time it takes before half of the active elements are either eliminated or broken down by the body.
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10-25-2004, 06:58 PM	#16
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	man thats crazy! i'm using nolva on M1T and even S1+, wouldn't even consider using 6-oxo after the shit i've read

10-25-2004, 07:01 PM	#17
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	What's wrong with 6-OXO? I don't understand what's bad about it? I took 6-OXO in the past as my PCT after M1T and had zero problems. Maybe I am just confused? The Anabolic Matrix product from BulkNutrition.com I might look into. I am thinking about picking up a bottle of that, and starting it in a few days.
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10-27-2004, 10:17 AM	#20
brokeass122 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: california Posts: 177	when i ran my m1t cycle i dont think that my test got shut down cause my nuts stayed the same size and didnt suck up on me so is everyone supposed to get shut down completley or is it just user specific

10-27-2004, 01:09 PM	#22
Purdue Power Good Enough Never Is Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Purdue University Posts: 1,351 Photos: 5	I will never use 6OXO again. Like Pirate said, even the Nolva wasn't enough. I had to take some other measures along with it. Nolva is so much cheaper too. It is less for one bottle of it(which will last the whole pct) than it is for one bottle of 6OXO(which takes 2 bottles even for something like a 1AD pct).
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10-27-2004, 01:15 PM	#23
gococksDJS RIP Foreman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,002	I don't think 6-OXO is enough either. The nolva was barely enough for me as well. In the future I plan on running HCG with all my M1T cycles.
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