Thread: 1-Ad im 17 would it be ok to me to try it?

stick to the whey protein and leave the PH's alone. Work hard at your weightlifting for a few more years before you try to use the PH's. You will be surprised at what you can accomplish.

Go ahead. Use it. Who needs natural flowing testosterone at age 17 anyway? It's not like your gonna bone the prom queen this year anyway right?

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Go ahead. Use it. Who needs natural flowing testosterone at age 17 anyway? It's not like your gonna bone the prom queen this year anyway right?

LOL
Anyway your testosterone levels are high enough anyway (your right in the middle of Puberty) without knowing the side effects of PHs and having a good base started already your thinking about looking into them.
PHs are very harmful to the human body (esspecially at your age) they can stunt growth and leave you infertial. On top of 50 other side effects.My advice to you is to build a decent base and look into steriod and PH use when your natural hormone levels have calmed down (22-23)
Personaly my gains have been excellent and I've never even contemplated looking into abusing my body with such substances.Food (beleive it or not) is more anabolic than the most steriods so your best bet right now would be to eat train sleep and wait for your gains to come.

Well.. while I dont agree with all of IONOR's evaluations of PH/PS, I DO agree that 17 is still a bit young to be starting either. At 17, more than likely, your test is very high already, and putting a foreign substance in your body during this adolecent period can cause complications. I would recommend staying clear of any PH/PS until your at least 21, and 25 would probably be ideal. (of course, I dont follow my own advice)

Now, PH/PS are NOT neccesarily harmful to the body, and usually do not make you infertal at all. (notice how many kids bb's have) If you have prior kidney or liver problems, then yes PH/PS could complicate things, but a normal cycle followed by PCT will not usually do anything out of the ordinary. Yes their are side effects and YES you are taking a risk, albeit small one, but PH/PS are not death in a bottle.

thank you guys, i will wait till im 21 i dont want to fuck my body

Originally Posted by IONOR

PHs are very harmful to the human body (esspecially at your age) they can stunt growth and leave you infertial. On top of 50 other side effects.
Personaly my gains have been excellent and I've never even contemplated looking into abusing my body with such substances.

Who told you this? The ice-cream delivery man? These comments seem to be based on the same old tired steroid argument that we have all been hearing since we found out what steroids were. Yes they CAN be harmful to your body if your a dumbshit and don't run a cycle responsibly. If you are responsible and knowledgeable, you won't take to high a dose or run to long a cycle, so therefore you won't stunt your growth or become infertile. The two sides you mentioned are a possibility but only if you are extremely wreckless and stupid. Know what your doing, and you will see incredible gains with very minimal temporary sides. Yes, 17 is to young to take PH/PS's but you should read up on them so that when you are old enough you can responsibly run a cycle if you so desire. Anyone with a minimal amount of knowledge about PH/PS's doesn't name stunted growth as the main side. IMO we should be educating young athletes about steroids rather than attempting to scare them away from them. The reason these drugs have such a bad reputation is almost based purely on ignorance. Im done rambling here, oh and stay away from Mountain Dew, it has yellow 5 in it, which shrinks your penis.

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Now, PH/PS are NOT neccesarily harmful to the body, and usually do not make you infertal at all. (notice how many kids bb's have) If you have prior kidney or liver problems, then yes PH/PS could complicate things, but a normal cycle followed by PCT will not usually do anything out of the ordinary. Yes their are side effects and YES you are taking a risk, albeit small one, but PH/PS are not death in a bottle.

I did not say that PH/PS are death in a bottle however over time if you abuse your body to a certian extent they sure can be. Without looking into them and doing your research you shouldn't even contemplate taking them for obvious reasons.

Originally Posted by IONOR

I did not say that PH/PS are death in a bottle however over time if you abuse your body to a certian extent they sure can be. Without looking into them and doing your research you shouldn't even contemplate taking them for obvious reasons.

If you run safe sensible cycles over time, there is no guarantee you will fuck your body up. If you have prior health problems, then yes its very dangerous but your dong is not going to fall off if you run 2 M1T cycles a year for 7 years, or longer. If your taking 500 mg's of M1T a day for 6 months, yes you will become infertile which is what should happen so you can't spread your seed and have dumb babies. The bottom line with PH/PS's is that if you are responsible and safe, they are very effective drugs.

Would it completely throw his endocrine system out of whack if he decided to use them?

Not necessarily, but why not capitalize on the high natural test levels that someone his age would have? At 17 your natural test levels are still very high and have not planed off or begun to decline like someone in their mid to late 20's. Plus there is a reason your test levels are so high at that age, and you don't want to endanger any future development your body might be going through by messing with your test levels.

Originally Posted by snoops

Would it completely throw his endocrine system out of whack if he decided to use them?

it can...using steroids, pro-hormones or pro-steroids before the end of puberty is plain stupidity...

Originally Posted by LAM

it can...using steroids, pro-hormones or pro-steroids before the end of puberty is plain stupidity...

Exactly!
That was the point I was trying to make.To many people start taking steriods without even looking into them and how to run a cycle safely.Then when something does go wrong (which it probably will if you don't know what your doing) steriods/phs get a bad name because off some stupid induvidial who is just looking for "instant results".
One of the reasons the bodybuilding stunts growth theroy came about was due to teens (at 15) using steriods and not knowing what they were doing!!.

While you can say steroids are the cause of infertility and stunted growth in these teens i blame it solely on stupidity

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

While you can say steroids are the cause of infertility and stunted growth in these teens i blame it solely on stupidity

No thats exactly what I mean people like this don't do reaserch of any kind pick up steriods (from god knows where) go on a cycle then something goes wrong. It's obviosly there fualt.
My whole point is reaserch research research before you do even think about using any drug of this nature.
Then if/when something does go wrong DONT BLAME THE DRUG BLAME THE USER

I took a 6 week cycle of 1-Test at the age of 17 and got great gains. sure it wasn't the best idea- however I do not regret it at all. I have not seen a single side effect of the PH... and have been checked at doctors routinely since. I will, however give the advice to wait until age 21- I bought a 240cc bottle of the stuff and still have 120cc left- I am going to wait about one or two more years before I finish it. I am currently working out w/ protein and things which works just as good- trust me if you can do it naturally- why wouldnt you?

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

If your taking 500 mg's of M1T a day for 6 months, yes you will become infertile which is what should happen so you can't spread your seed and have dumb babies.

i agree wid you totally on this subject... the whole correct use = good results, stupid use = bad results thing, plus trying to get the message out that pro-hormones/steroids are not dangerous when used correctly, but if you mess about with them they will mess up your body

Originally Posted by MP fit

I am currently working out w/ protein and things which works just as good- trust me if you can do it naturally- why wouldnt you?

(IMO) If you go naturaly and build a great body you have more to be proud of than someone who's used illegal drugs and built a slightly better body just for the plain fact that it was pure blood sweat and tears and not some drug that
helped get you there

so is it more that 17 or 18 year olds dont have the proper diet and work out routines why they shouldnt be taking things like 1-ad or M1-T?

Originally Posted by snoops

so is it more that 17 or 18 year olds dont have the proper diet and work out routines why they shouldnt be taking things like 1-ad or M1-T?

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, i sure hope you are joking. When your 17 and taking something as potent as M1T, the last thing you have to worry about is your diet. Your first worry should be how you are going to bang chicks with a shoelace for a cock. At that age you have extremely high natural test levels, and taking something like M1T could possibly alter your hormone levels permanently, not to mention that taking M1T is like hitting your liver with a hammer. The reason why you should wait until your at least 21 is because until your early twenties, your natural test levels are still very high and in your 20's is when they begin to plane off and then slowly decrease, so take advantage of your high natural levels why you can and keep your diet and workout routine in check to make optimal gains.