CEX Results so far!!!!!

QuestionGuy · 11-16-2004, 07:41 PM

hi guys i have been taking C-E-X from VPX for about maybe little more than 3 weeks now and doing a clean (well mostly clean) bulk and liftin heavy. First of all i feel strenghts gain and i got about 6-8 pounds and i can really see the difference especially since my shoulders and chest grows like crazy and responds really well and is nice and defined naturally. but i love this stuff and i doubt that it is a lot of water gain either since they promise that it wont do that but you never know, i love VPX because even the redline works. My veins are poping out nicely like never before and my forearms got some gains too and biceps are visibly " bigger" and fuller....i like the stuff but ofcourse everyone is different i just seem to respond to it, nect thing im gona try from vpx is 1Test but i gota do some homework about it because i need to be carefull esspecially cause im a scary pants about strong supps and because i never did anything stronger then creatine (cex) anyone wanna offer some advice ?

Vise · 11-16-2004, 07:47 PM

make sure to check out the ph/ps sticky

PreMier · 11-16-2004, 08:07 PM

How can it work(creatine) if there is no water gain!? Riddle me this..

QuestionGuy · 11-16-2004, 09:50 PM

( it not me that said that its VPX) it suposetly like all absorbent so there is no bloating or water outside the muscle and it doesnt fuck with your physique, everything gets absorbed into the uscles, that what i meant..... i love that stuff and its gona be illegal i think starting january im gona STACK IT UP

cappo5150 · 11-16-2004, 11:06 PM

This isnt on the ban list.

gopro · 11-17-2004, 09:31 AM

Thanks for the report on your CEX experiences. I hear feedback like this daily. Seems to be the real deal.

topolo · 11-17-2004, 01:57 PM

that sucks it didnt work for me

QuestionGuy · 11-17-2004, 03:35 PM

how long did you do it for??? it took me like 2 weeks and more to actually feel it for real and now i feel better and stronger everyday and i can realy see the results im gona do the whole bottle,

i did hear that it is going to be baned tho..

PreMier · 11-17-2004, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

how long did you do it for??? it took me like 2 weeks and more to actually feel it for real and now i feel better and stronger everyday and i can realy see the results im gona do the whole bottle,

i did hear that it is going to be baned tho..

Its creatine, and creatine is NOT on the ban list..

Robboe · 11-17-2004, 04:00 PM

What else is in it?

Can't be just creatine, surely?

topolo · 11-17-2004, 04:08 PM

I used a whole bottle.....for about a month

PreMier · 11-17-2004, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TCD

What else is in it?

Can't be just creatine, surely?

Its CEE. Thats why it may be banned, but its not on the prohormone ban list.

Robboe · 11-17-2004, 04:22 PM

That means nothing to me, sorry. Ellaborate.

PreMier · 11-17-2004, 04:32 PM

VPX's is a bit different, but here is the jist of it.

Ok.. well CEE is creatine ethyl ester. Here is some text from Custom:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Custom

CEE HCL, or Creatine Ethyl Ester Hydrochloride, is an extremely soluble form of creatine that results in superior absorption, bioavailability, and molecular stability. Say goodbye to bloating, cramping and dehydration; Cre-Evolved penetrates your muscles directly by passing the creatine transporters. Cre-Evolved goes right into your muscle cell, leaving no edema. Now with close to 40 times more creatine in your muscle cell, the creatine molecule can finally unleash its full potential. You will feel the intensity in ever single rep, you will feel the muscle growing in less time than you ever dreamed.

Users are reporting dramatic increases in strength, along with decreased recovery time, decreased soreness, and some of the best pumps ever known.

Highlights:

Up to 40 times more potent than Regular Creatine.
Almost 100% Creatine Absorption and Utilization.
Stable in Liquid with no Creatinine Conversion.
Enhances the Absorption of other Muscle Building Compounds.
Radical Nitric Oxide Pumps.
Unparalleled Creatine and Nitrogen Retention.
Zero Bloating, Zero Fat Gain, Zero Water Retention, Zero Sugar, Zero Carbs.
Massive Cell Volumizer.
Huge Increase in Strength & Muscle Growth

It hasnt been approved by the FDA, but they are still selling it awaiting their decision. If they dont approve, I was told that they would pull the product.

redspy · 11-17-2004, 04:34 PM

I've been using Custom's CEE for the past few weeks and am really impressed with it. It doesn't cause bloating like monohydrate and increases my workout stamina.

Robboe · 11-17-2004, 04:42 PM

Oh, i CEE.

excuse the pun. Shi'ite joke.

That stable in water thing looks interesting.

QuestionGuy · 11-17-2004, 05:03 PM

i tell you guys its the shit for me i love it. Ofcourse everyone is different and what works for me will not work for others, i like it and i will buy me another big bottle in cause they really pull it but i really did hear that they will pull it in january, plus im gona buy me a big bottle of their 1-test to try it because now im a true believer in VPX their Redline syrup worked and cex did to so they can bet im a customer for life, as long as they dont bull shit me and try to sell me shit, i will do some more homework on 1-test because it would be my first time doing anything like that, what kinds of sides should i expect on a 3 week cycle ?

PreMier · 11-17-2004, 05:13 PM

I am not finding CEE all that great

You need to read the prohormone FAQ.

Mikhal · 11-17-2004, 10:59 PM

VPX is one of my sponsers, and they really do make great stuff. But for my needs CEX added weight, not water bloat but just like 3 lbs which I don't need. But it did work great felt strong, got crazy pumps. It's all good if you are not in a weight class. Peace n Love

gopro · 11-18-2004, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PreMier

Its CEE. Thats why it may be banned, but its not on the prohormone ban list.

Its not a prohormone, so why should it be banned? Just b/c it has an ester attached? Some vitamin C products even have an ester attached.

PreMier · 11-18-2004, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gopro

Its not a prohormone, so why should it be banned? Just b/c it has an ester attached? Some vitamin C products even have an ester attached.

I dont think it should be banned. I heard from Matt(owner of Custom) that CEE could be banned by the FDA, because there is no proof that the ester is safe

QuestionGuy · 11-18-2004, 06:33 PM

man the are probobly a bunsh of fat guys who got their wifes fucked by "guys like us" (yes i know the "guys like us" sentence is gona cause some debates ) anyway they are probobly just mad so they want to ban everything, stupid fuckers.

**Dale Mabry** · 11-18-2004, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by CustomCEE HCL, or Creatine Ethyl Ester Hydrochloride, is an extremely soluble form of creatine that results in superior absorption, bioavailability, and molecular stability. Say goodbye to bloating, cramping and dehydration; Cre-Evolved penetrates your muscles directly by passing the creatine transporters. Cre-Evolved goes right into your muscle cell, leaving no edema. Now with close to 40 times more creatine in your muscle cell, the creatine molecule can finally unleash its full potential. You will feel the intensity in ever single rep, you will feel the muscle growing in less time than you ever dreamed.

Users are reporting dramatic increases in strength, along with decreased recovery time, decreased soreness, and some of the best pumps ever known.

Highlights:

Up to 40 times more potent than Regular Creatine.
How was this measured? I am guessing this is rhetoric.
Almost 100% Creatine Absorption and Utilization.
The same can be said about monohydrate, bioavailability is not an issue.Stable in Liquid with no Creatinine Conversion.
Possible, I have no idea, but I have no problem with mixing it right away anyway.
Enhances the Absorption of other Muscle Building Compounds.
How?
Radical Nitric Oxide Pumps.
Again, I don't see how this is possible. Endothelial Nitric oxide, the good kind, is released due to shear stress on the blood vessel walls. The theory behind L-arginine and the NOS supplements is that more precusrsors will lead to more potential for nitric oxide release, kind of like a backstock if you run out. Creatine is made of L-Arginine so maybe that is the reason, but it would be no different than monohydrate unless the creatine was breaking down more easily, which would be something you would want to avoid.
Unparalleled Creatine and Nitrogen Retention.
The intramuscular water retention from monohydrate is what makes for a better environment in terms of nitrogen retention. If this does not cause IM water retention, I have no idea by what mechanism it would promote nitrogen retention.
Zero Bloating, Zero Fat Gain, Zero Water Retention, Zero Sugar, Zero Carbs.
This, is indeed interesting and quite possible. This would be a reason to get it alone if it is an issue for you.
Massive Cell Volumizer.
Rhetoric
Huge Increase in Strength & Muscle Growth
see above

I think the bypassing the creatine transporters is great, but too many of the claims seem fishy to me. I would think that getting more into the muscle and lack of GI distress would be enough to sell the stuff. The other claims seem so false and outrageous that I actually doubt the valid ones.