Thread: anybody try m1t by itself?

If you don't stack it with 4-Derm you are gonna have one flaccid noodle the whole cycle and the lethargy will be crazy. I stopped using 4-Derm for about 5 days on cycle once because I thought it was a pain to spray on and i easily slept 16 hrs. a day and was still tired. Yes you can run M1T alone, but i wouldn't reccomend it.

I did. Noodle wasn't flaccid, but lethargy was there. Gains were the same as with 4ad.

Same here re: lethargy. It's a nasty bastard.

Sleepy: yes
No appetite: yes
Flaccid noodle: never if motivation is around me

With me, the libido never affected me first time round, but more hindered me when i wanted to go for a victory lap (or two).

No noodle problems here, either. Lethargy hasn't really been an issue for me either.

Originally Posted by gopro

Sleepy: yes
No appetite: yes
Flaccid noodle: never if motivation is around me

Originally Posted by musclepump

No noodle problems here, either. Lethargy hasn't really been an issue for me either.

what dose you running?

None of above for me but then again I seem to be the odd rat of experiment here

Originally Posted by musclepump

No noodle problems here, either. Lethargy hasn't really been an issue for me either.

Just wait until PCT

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

If you don't stack it with 4-Derm you are gonna have one flaccid noodle the whole cycle and the lethargy will be crazy. I stopped using 4-Derm for about 5 days on cycle once because I thought it was a pain to spray on and i easily slept 16 hrs. a day and was still tired. Yes you can run M1T alone, but i wouldn't reccomend it.

I read this when I was eating my lunch. I read the part "If you don't stack it with 4-Derm you are gonna have one flaccid noodle". I started to choke. Then I realized that I was choking (on) my chicken and just about died.

Thanks. Thanks a lot.

I have cycled M1T and M1T stacked with 4AD. The difference for me was that I did feel more lethargic and loss of libido on M1T alone. I was using 15-20mg per day. Stacked with 4AD (10mg per day with 300mg of 4AD per day) I retained more water and had more joint aches with more muscle cramping. Kept the libido thou. Weight gain was about the same about 6 lbs of lean muscle.

I did a 2 week cycle of M1T by its self 2 weeks ago and ran 20mg's a day, I had no sides, wasnt sleepy, it didnt effect my hunger, the noodle worked just fine except sometimes it would be hard enough it was painful, i did get some pumps in my lower back that were a little uncomfey, but in the end i only got about 8lbs total and have kept everything sofar...

what dose you running?

10mg, and I'm not looking forward to PCT and loss of noodle power ... haha...

in the end i only got about 8lbs total

8 pounds on one cycle is damn good.

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

Just wait until PCT

PCT will suck whether you used 4-AD or not. I had no problems on cycle (with 4-AD), but PCT...

Why is that exactly? Why does PCT, when you're trying to get your sack back to normal, does everything hit the ground?

Originally Posted by musclepump

Why is that exactly? Why does PCT, when you're trying to get your sack back to normal, does everything hit the ground?

Because your body stops producing the right amount of testosterone while on cycle, and takes time (and drugs) to recover after the cycle is over. It is called being "shut down", because your natural test production almost completely shuts off.

how about 1T should i expect the same sides, (im using for first time sorry for being such a wuss but i need to know....) i was thinking to use a 3 week cycle of 1T by itself....should i expect same shit as from m1t???

So to recap how effective m1t is:

You gain no strength.
You feel like shit.
Can't have sex.
You gain weight, but its all water weight.
On your PCT you loose everything you gained and then some.
You feel like shit some more.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

So to recap how effective m1t is:

You gain no strength.
You feel like shit.
Can't have sex.
You gain weight, but its all water weight.
On your PCT you loose everything you gained and then some.
You feel like shit some more.

I think most people people who have used it have had much better experiences. I felt great aside from fluctuations in energy throughout the day, and gained lots of lbm

How much LBM? I was thinking about trying something, but im only 22.

Originally Posted by BigDyl

So to recap how effective m1t is:

You gain no strength.
You feel like shit.
Can't have sex.
You gain weight, but its all water weight.
On your PCT you loose everything you gained and then some.
You feel like shit some more.

I had excellent strength gains, and yes i did gain water weight which i lost but i also put on some LBM. You might lose some of your gains during PCT but the key is to keep your calorie intake up, and I have never heard of someone losing their strenght than they had before cycling. Have you ever run M1T?

Originally Posted by BigDyl

How much LBM? I was thinking about trying something, but im only 22.

I'm a small guy (150lbs) and coudn't workout my legs due to an injury. In 20 days I put 13 lbs. on my upper body. During PCT, I lost 5 pounds of water, kept all my stength and mass. If I could have worked my legs, I probably would have ended with a net gain of ten pounds of muscle from a 20 day cycle. Can't complain about half a pound a day. I worked in the gym like never before to get that growth.

Originally Posted by musclepump

8 pounds on one cycle is damn good.

not really

if on my 1st M1T cycle I don't put on at least 20lbs from it I will be pretty pissed off, given the risks I don't think running M1T is worth a 8lbs weight gain!

Originally Posted by young d

not really

if on my 1st M1T cycle I don't put on at least 20lbs from it I will be pretty pissed off, given the risks I don't think running M1T is worth a 8lbs weight gain!

Keeping 8 lbs. from an M1T cycle is pretty impressive. I have never heard of anyone keeping 20 lbs. from a cycle. You can gain 20 lbs but a lot of it will be water weight which you will lose during PCT. I can almost guarantee you will not gain 20 lbs of LBM from M1T.

So, I'm guessin' all of you are 25 or over, since that is the age everyone recommends you wait to use prohormones.

nope im not

What is M1T?