Thread: M1T~PCT~4Derm

if you run 4derm, you are still "on" cycle... the day following your last dose of any prohormone/ prosteroid... that's when you go PCT. why didn't you run them together... that's standard procedure dude.

what are you using for pct? ...nolva, clomid, 6-oxo? how long was your m1t cycle? is this your first cycle? what is your ph/ps history... these are relavent to giving you some answers to grow on...

I just decided to pick up 4Derm before the ban; I just received it today. I've had M1T for awhile. I'm doing a three week cycle using Axion-Pharm's MD1T. My cycle ends the 28th, it's the first PH/PS I've used.

I'm using Nolva, ZMA and Milk Thistle PCT.

i'd hold on to the 4derm now and get youself another bottle of 1-test for the "next" cycle... is this your 1st cycle on ph/ps? and how much did you take ed on this 3 wk cycle? what's your schedule for pct... dosages/day/wk... how many weeks?

Yep, first cycle with any PH/PS.

Axion-Pharm isn't in 5mg tablets; they come in 6.25 of one compound+1mg of another. I take two pills a day.

For PCT I'll be taking Nolva 40mg for the first week, 20mg for the next two. Three weeks total for PCT.

like Chief said, PCT doesn't start until you aren't taking any PH/PS's and for future info, a lot of people front load 4-Derm for a week so that it is effective right when you start M1T becuase the sides hit you so fast.

well, if this truly is you're first time "on" anything... after your pct is over, wait 1-3 weeks to see how you feel... you might be ready to do it again! just be ready to take a lot more time "off" after your next post cycle. oh and depending on what your goals are, try not to deprive yourself of calories, or go on a "cut", until long after your pct if you want to keep what you earned. remember, taking any of these otc supplements is a gamble... make it worth the risk.

I would wait ore than 1-3 weeks. You need time to restore your natural test levels.