My M1T Cycle Review

**musclepump** · 11-30-2004, 12:35 PM

Product: Axion-Pharm MD1T
17a-Methyl-17beta-Hydroxyestra-4,9(10)dien-3-one 1mg/capsule
1,(5a) Androstene-17α-Methyl-17β-ol-3-one 6.25mg/capsule

Length: 15 days
Dosage: Day 1-4 6.25mg, 5-End 12.50mg

Start Weight: 192.0
End Weight: 199.5

Positives: Prolonged pumps, increased libido, visually leaner.

Negatives: Immense fatigue (I can sleep ten hours and still wake up feeling amazingly tired). Muscle tightness (always feeling like I need to stretch, and then when I stretch it never felt like enough). Water retention (noticeable water in my abdominal area).

PCT: Currently on PCT of Nolva, Milk Thistle, Tribulus and ZMA.

Review: I liked it. The short length of my cycle kept my gains lower than what a lot of people say they receive. I increased my calories but there was a three day period over this last weekend where I sailed off with a lady friend for... well, prolonged exercise. During this time I wasn't able to eat all that well and that too I'm sure conflicted with the process. The one thing it did tell me was that there was zero sexual sides and if anything, it increased my drive. I was, after the first week, up to 202 pounds. I will be doing another cycle in March, a month before my first show in April. I'll be stacking that with 4-Derm. One thing I notice most people say is increased strength; I didn't so much feel stronger or lift any heavier weights, though what I would normally do on bench for six reps I could go for eight or nine, but if that is in result of M1T or simple progression, I don't know.

M1T is always a popular discussion around here, so if anyone has any questions I can try and answer them. It goes without saying, but I'll do it anyways: My advice is not that of a professional and is solely from my own experiences. I'm a personal trainer, not a doctor. If you ask, I'll tell you what I know, but Lord knows it isn't gospel.

**Tha Don** · 11-30-2004, 03:14 PM

why did you decide on only running the cycle for 2 weeks? how long will your next M1T cycle be?

what training split did you use whilst on?

any idea how much of that weight is water weight? you think the cycle was successful/worth it?

I'm suprised you didn't put on more weight/strength, you reckon your dose was right?

peace

**musclepump** · 11-30-2004, 08:19 PM

Well, I wanted to start as soon as possible. I've got a bachelor party to hit up in a couple of weeks and want to be able to have a few drinks, so I needed to be off and clear for then. With that, I wanted to know if I needed to stock up on any PH/PS before the ban. I'm guessing three to four pounds is water, and I do think it was still worth it. For the sides I had, a few pounds of muscle I wouldn't have had otherwise is well worth it. The only issue is the cost I have to front for PCT, but I gained knowledge from it that yeah, it's worth doing again. My next cycle will be four weeks.

**gococksDJS** · 11-30-2004, 11:17 PM

What do you mean by the cost you have to front for PCT?

**musclepump** · 11-30-2004, 11:22 PM

Nolva + Milk Thistle + ZMA + Trib costs more than the cycle itself. So after a short cycle, and doing another a few months later, PCT ends up costing several times that of the actual "main" supplement

**Tha Don** · 12-01-2004, 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by musclepump

Nolva + Milk Thistle + ZMA + Trib costs more than the cycle itself. So after a short cycle, and doing another a few months later, PCT ends up costing several times that of the actual "main" supplement

indeed

in economic terms its a LOT more efficient to run one 4 week cycle as opposed to two 2 week cycles

my first M1T cycle will be for 4 weeks

**gococksDJS** · 12-01-2004, 07:38 AM

Pretty much all supplements are expensive in comparison to UL's M1T

**musclepump** · 12-01-2004, 08:56 AM

Yeah, but you'll notice I didn't take UL's M1T. I took a much more expensive, though not necessarily better (but quite different) M(d)1T.

**gococksDJS** · 12-01-2004, 10:01 AM

Ive never tried any other brand other than UL's so I have no comparison but I have heard of some people running UL cycles and seeing no results at all. weird

**Tha Don** · 12-01-2004, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

Ive never tried any other brand other than UL's so I have no comparison but I have heard of some people running UL cycles and seeing no results at all. weird

UL labs is good shit, so that is weird! I can't only think they are non responders

lol

**Pirate!** · 12-01-2004, 12:36 PM

nonresponder = bad steroids.

**gococksDJS** · 12-01-2004, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by young d

UL labs is good shit, so that is weird! I can't only think they are non responders

lol

I agree UL makes quality shit but i read a review on 1fast400 about someone thinking it was a bad batch because he saw no gains or sides.

**topolo** · 12-01-2004, 01:30 PM

I ran ul for 3 weeks at 20mg a day and didnt get much at all except sides

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