titans1854

I'm getting a 50 ml bottle of liquid Tamoxifen Citrate, for my mice of course, from physicalenhancements.com. It's made by pheonix labs. I'm doing a 30 days cycle of 400mg 1-ad per day and 400mg of 4-ad(4derm) per day. I was wondering how much nolva to take. The ph sticky says:

Week 1-2: 40mg(2ml) a day
Week 3-4: 20mg(1ml) a day

But then i heard somewhere that i need to take more, like:

Week 1-2: 60mg(3ml) a day
Week 3-4: 30mg(1.5ml) a day

what should i do? and anyone have experince with the pheonix labs nolvadex?

thanx

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musclepump

What was your cycle like?

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musclepump

I mean the cycle your mice were on, of course.

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titans1854

i haven't started yet, but i plan to in the next weeks or so. i wanted to get the nolva thing figured out first.

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musclepump

Ok, then what's your planned cycle?

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titans1854

week 1-4: 400mg of 1-ad (split into 4-100mg doses)
400mg of 4ad from 4derm (split into 2 doses, 5 sprays each dose)

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musclepump

I don't think you need to go up to 60 on a cycle like that. 40/20 should be fine... for your mice.

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Purdue Power

Ya, 40mg for 2 weeks and 20mg for the next 2 weeks should be fine. I did a 50/40/30/20 split for my pct off of M1T, and that was enough, so the afore mentioned dose will be fine for you(r mice).

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topolo

the liquid is not as potent as the tabs

gococksDJS

I would stretch that 1-AD from 4 to 6 weeks. When i ran 1-AD, i really started seeing the results during the 3rd week.

titans1854

yea, that's what i heard and that's y i asked if i should bump up the dosage.

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gococksDJS

When it comes to liquid nolva, most people do bump it up, b/c the concentration of tamoxifen citrate per mg is lower in the liquid than in the pill form, and the liquid form I have used in the past contains 20mg/ml.

JerseyDevil

The citrate has roughly 25% less tamoxifen then the tabs. So to get 40mg of tamoxifen ed for example, you need to take 60mg ed of the tamoxifen citrate.

musclepump

40mg would be 33.3_% less than 60mg, wouldn't it? Just checking my math here

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I've not seen Tamoxifen in pill or cap form. Did I miss it somewhere?

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Pirate!

With liquid, you need more than the sticky. A 20 mg pill has 20 mg of tamoxifen and about 10 mg citrate. It takes about 1.5 mL of the liquid to get about 20 mg of tamoxifen. Go with the higher dose schedule you posted.