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    +60 lbs on bench!!!

    I was on bulknutrition.com and a reviewer for M1T said he added 60 lbs to his max bench press in 3 weeks. Also, he said he gained 10 lbs. My quetions are as follows:

    1. have any of you guys experienced such gains in strength?
    2. would the strength deplete dramatically after you stop taking the M1T?
    3. the weight gained, what is it and why is it gained?

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    Well , you seem to not know a lot about m1t therefore prohormones/prosteroids. M1t is methylated version of 1-test , so it is a steroid and works the way as a steroid works. I recommend you read the prohormone thread above (sticky) ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by simbh
    Well , you seem to not know a lot about m1t therefore prohormones/prosteroids. M1t is pretty much a steroid , so it works the way a steroid works. I recommend you read the prohormone thread above (sticky) ...
    M1T is not pretty much a steroid, it is an anabolic steroid, but due to its legality is called a pro-steroid. First off 60lbs. from 3 weeks of M1T sounds like stretch to me, ive never personally heard of anyone gaining that much from an oral, much less keeping it. It is very powerful stuff, and you will see incredible strength gains as well as significant weight gain, but a good portion of it is water weight which you will piss out during PCT. There are also a good number of mild, temporary side effects to contend with. The amount of your gains you keep depends on your diet and training and PCT. Read up more man, dont touch this stuff until you have at least run a milder pro-hormone cycle because if you have done M1T you have done anabolic steroids, but pretty soon they will all be scheduled drugs.

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    Ya , I wasnt sure if it was classified as a steroid ... I read the thread to exactly see ... And yes what goco says is right. And if you consider doing this , try doing 1-ad first.
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    I'm inclined to think that he wasn't JUST on M1T. That is even if his claims are true. 60 pounds + to max bench and 10 pounds LBM in less than 3 weeks?!? I'm not saying it's impossible but I hardly see M1T boosting someone that fast.

    I've done 1 cycle of M1T and saw some significant gains but nothing that extreme and that was on a 4 week cycle. I'm no expert but I would seek further validation from the experienced folks on this board before I trust anything posted by a "reviewer" from Bulk Nutrition. Sounds to me like he's trying to seduce you into bying the product
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witmaster
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    Exactly my toughts. I am not really looking for 60 pounds added in 3 weeks, but rather 50 lbs in 5 months; roughly 2.5 lbs every two weeks. I have read a pretty good amount on steroids, prosteroids, prohormones, and supplements but it's usually generalized stuff developed by the makers of the products that help them avoid lawsuits, or reviews from someone who is taking more than one product. I know that with steroids are used for skin diseases and athsma among other things, and that muscle growth is just a side effect, which I used to think was its only purpose, and that muscle growth only occurs when there is a large amount in your system; and the large quantities is what lead to the big C....CANCER. Is it the same with M1T. But, what I don't know is that would I have to continue taking the M1T and would it have to be in large quantities. I want to know if M1T has been linked to any dangerous side effects like CANCER or anything to that nature? Also, I would like to know the type of diet that would help me to keep the strength gained after I run outta M1T. I know protein, carbs, and water. I eat PLENTY of protein anyways and carbs are like my fave but I can only drink half a gallon of water. I'm pissing all day a night pretty much, and that is a mistake cuz i'm in school. Most folk tell me I should drink a full gallon.
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    First of all 60 pounds + 10 pounds of mass is completely possible.

    Sadly, it's possible because sometimes newbies who have hardly lifted a weight looking for a quick fix might go from 120 to 180 for a max-out increase by taking a steroid with hardly any weight training know how or experience. When my buddy first started lifting, in about 8 or 9 weeks he went from benching 85 to 170 pounds for reps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsondestinyx
    I was on bulknutrition.com and a reviewer for M1T said he added 60 lbs to his max bench press in 3 weeks. Also, he said he gained 10 lbs. My quetions are as follows:

    1. have any of you guys experienced such gains in strength?
    2. would the strength deplete dramatically after you stop taking the M1T?
    3. the weight gained, what is it and why is it gained?
    Absolutely possible. If youre a beginner, its most possible.

    Im not a beginner and havent been in a long time. I did one 1-month cycle of M1T a while back, (after years of training), and my bench (reps) jumped about 60lbs while on it. So, definitely possible with that. But, my diet was on key, and my intensity was unrivaled.

    I lost about 20lbs of that bench weight in about a month, and Ive been ever so slowly moving up since. I had a shitty PCT though.

    The weight gained depends on your diet. Hopefully its mostly muscle. But chances are, youve got a bunch of water. Possibly, if youre not eating right, youll put on fat too. You gain weight on M1t because you hold water, because anabolic steroids (such as m1t) increase protein synthesis, and because you typically eat more while on cycle.

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    I'm only a newbie when it comes to this forum and supplements. I'm not a newbie in liftfing weights. Is your friend still using the 'roids?

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    I didn't gain shit for strength on bench during M1T.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsondestinyx
    ...But, what I don't know is that would I have to continue taking the M1T and would it have to be in large quantities. I want to know if M1T has been linked to any dangerous side effects like CANCER or anything to that nature?...
    I HIGHLY suggest you check out the sticky on Prohormones:
    Prohormone / Prosteroid FAQ - Everything You Need to Know!

    Lots of good info there.

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    [QUOTE=crimsondestinyx]I have read a pretty good amount on steroids, prosteroids, prohormones, and supplements but it's usually generalized stuff developed by the makers of the products that help them avoid lawsuits, or reviews from someone who is taking more than one product. I know that with steroids are used for skin diseases and athsma among other things, and that muscle growth is just a side effect, which I used to think was its only purpose, and that muscle growth only occurs when there is a large amount in your system; and the large quantities is what lead to the big C....CANCER. Is it the same with M1T. But, what I don't know is that would I have to continue taking the M1T and would it have to be in large quantities. I want to know if M1T has been linked to any dangerous side effects like CANCER or anything to that nature? QUOTE]
    haha, my man you need to read up a little more. By definition steroids are fats arranged in 4 rings of 17 carbon atoms. There are many different types of steroids, and steroids are common in the treatment of cancer usually with chemotherapy to support immune function. Steroids are extremely powerful anti-inflamatorys that are administered to patients with tumors in an effect to delay the inflamation of tissues around a tumor. Anabolic steroids are a group of synthetic hormones to promote protein storage and tissue growth, and anabolic steroids are perscribed to some cancer patients to help delay further muscle degradation brought on by the cancer and the fact that their immune systems are basically non-existent due to chemotherapy, but steroids are usually administered to cancer patients in much smaller doses and for only a few days or weeks at a time. There are no studies directly linking long term steroid use to cancer. Recreational use and medicinal use of steroids are different things. Many people are more or less prone to certain types of cancer based on genetics. Read up more on steroids before buying anything, and make sure you know what you are doing because it seems like you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsondestinyx
    Exactly my toughts. I am not really looking for 60 pounds added in 3 weeks, but rather 50 lbs in 5 months; roughly 2.5 lbs every two weeks. I have read a pretty good amount on steroids, prosteroids, prohormones, and supplements but it's usually generalized stuff developed by the makers of the products that help them avoid lawsuits, or reviews from someone who is taking more than one product. I know that with steroids are used for skin diseases and athsma among other things, and that muscle growth is just a side effect, which I used to think was its only purpose, and that muscle growth only occurs when there is a large amount in your system; and the large quantities is what lead to the big C....CANCER. Is it the same with M1T. But, what I don't know is that would I have to continue taking the M1T and would it have to be in large quantities. I want to know if M1T has been linked to any dangerous side effects like CANCER or anything to that nature? Also, I would like to know the type of diet that would help me to keep the strength gained after I run outta M1T. I know protein, carbs, and water. I eat PLENTY of protein anyways and carbs are like my fave but I can only drink half a gallon of water. I'm pissing all day a night pretty much, and that is a mistake cuz i'm in school. Most folk tell me I should drink a full gallon.
    You won't live long enough to get cancer. Large quantities of M1T will kill you first. You better do some research pal.






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