Orbitnutrition.com


Noob to ProHormones - questions!

Results 1 to 12 of 12
  1. #1
    Registered User

    vellanator's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    171
    Rep Points
    10

    Lightbulb Noob to ProHormones - questions!



    My head is spinning after reading so much about various PHs...

    After all that, I've decided to try stacking M1T and 4AD. My question is this - I ended up getting M4AD (methylated) instead of just 4AD.

    Is this too much? If so should I stagger them?

    Follow up question - recommended dosage per day per my body weight (see background below)?

    Another follow up, while I have ya here...has anyone tried norbolone ester and if so, what were the results and would you recommend?

    Background on me:

    I'm 35, I've been lifting regularly since I was 18.

    I'm in good general health; 5'11", 190#. I recently had a long stint of work where I was doing crazy hours and had little time for sleep, much less lifting. That said, I could stand to shed around 5 pounds of fat right now.

    Thanks to any responders in advance.

  2. #2
    Back from the dead

    gococksDJS's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    6,003
    Rep Points
    6402071

    Have you ever run a PH cycle? M1T is not a pro-hormone, it is an anabolic steroid. If this is your first cycle, i wouldn't reccomend starting with something as strong as M1T, because you will almost definately see some mild sides. Also don't try to cut while running a bulking cycle like M1T. You need to increase your calorie intake to get the most out of the cycle. I suggest you run a search and read people's personal experiences with M1T.

  3. #3
    Registered User

    vellanator's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    171
    Rep Points
    10

    Thanks very much for the advice.

    I'll read up. I'm interested in bulking then cutting - haven't decided what to do on the cutting side.

  4. #4

  5. #5
    On a journey.......
    ELITE MEMBER

    Phred's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Back in Sacramento, CA again
    Posts
    671
    Rep Points
    10

    Just a point of clarification. You can cut on M1T as well as bulk. Most folks bulk with it. But you can stack with 1AD for a cut. However, as stated in the post above, M1T is not a good starter PH/PS. IMO, I would not use two methylated PH/PS's together. Seems like it would be really hard on the liver.
    If you always have a great day, you will always have a great life.

    "The gym offers force and pain and relief. It provides challenge and struggle and satisfaction." Dave Draper

  6. #6
    Gatekepper
    ELITE MEMBER

    Pirate!'s Avatar

    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    6,580
    Rep Points
    12533952

    There is absolutely no reason to stack 1-ad with M1T for a cut. M1T will work great for a cut. Sell the M4AD. Or at least don't take it with M1T.

  7. #7
    Registered User

    vellanator's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    171
    Rep Points
    10

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio
    Thanks Robert - I actually read the FAQ, which is where I came across the M1T and 4AD combo. I see that I missed the part about avoiding more than 1 methylated compound at a time.

    Again, thanks to all for any advice.

    And - if anyone has tried norbolone ester - let me know pros / cons, etc.

    This board rocks.

  8. #8
    Back from the dead

    gococksDJS's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    6,003
    Rep Points
    6402071

    Quote Originally Posted by Phred
    But you can stack with 1AD for a cut. However, as stated in the post above, M1T is not a good starter PH/PS. IMO, I would not use two methylated PH/PS's together. Seems like it would be really hard on the liver.
    Why would you want to run M1T, which is an anabolic steroid, along with something that is an intraglandular precursor of a hormone? They won't even kick in at the same time, about 4 days to a week before you start PCT with M1T, the 1-AD will start kicking in, so IMO it's a waste to run this stack. Bulk with M1T and if you want to run a cutting cycle, look into M4OHN. It takes longer for pro-hormones to get into your system, a good example is how many people front load 4-AD with M1T cycles b/c the M1T sides will hit you before the 4-AD kicks in if you start at the same time.

  9. #9
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Nottingham, England
    Posts
    3,826
    Rep Points
    2547525

    Quote Originally Posted by vellanator
    Thanks Robert - I actually read the FAQ, which is where I came across the M1T and 4AD combo. I see that I missed the part about avoiding more than 1 methylated compound at a time.

    Again, thanks to all for any advice.

    And - if anyone has tried norbolone ester - let me know pros / cons, etc.

    This board rocks.
    hey pick up some 1-ad and 4derm

    and stack the 1-ad and m4ad together for 6 weeks as a first ph cycle, then providing that goes well run the m1t with the 4derm for a month

    that is probably your best bet, unless you sell on the m4ad, you can also replace the 1-ad with a 1-test product such as big 1 and stack that instead

    peace

  10. #10
    Registered User

    vellanator's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    171
    Rep Points
    10

    Quote Originally Posted by young d
    hey pick up some 1-ad and 4derm

    and stack the 1-ad and m4ad together for 6 weeks as a first ph cycle, then providing that goes well run the m1t with the 4derm for a month

    that is probably your best bet, unless you sell on the m4ad, you can also replace the 1-ad with a 1-test product such as big 1 and stack that instead

    peace
    Thanks man, I'm going to go the M1T alone for the first run just to see how I react. I have some 6OXO for PCT, but I'm not sure if that's enough. I'm reading up on Nolva and related compounds and thinking about picking some up in the near future.

    I'll try a stack next time around. I'll probably pick up some 1ad and run it with the M4AD and see how that works out.

    Then I'll lay off for a while and just go natural, like I always have.

  11. #11
    Metrosexual
    ELITE MEMBER

    DOMS's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    In a van, down by the river...
    Posts
    28,876
    Rep Points
    924474111


    Quote Originally Posted by vellanator
    Thanks man, I'm going to go the M1T alone for the first run just to see how I react. I have some 6OXO for PCT, but I'm not sure if that's enough. I'm reading up on Nolva and related compounds and thinking about picking some up in the near future.

    I'll try a stack next time around. I'll probably pick up some 1ad and run it with the M4AD and see how that works out.

    Then I'll lay off for a while and just go natural, like I always have.
    Don't do M1T alone.
    Don't used 6OXO for PCT after M1T. Use Nolva.

  12. #12
    Registered User

    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Nottingham, England
    Posts
    3,826
    Rep Points
    2547525

    Quote Originally Posted by vellanator
    Thanks man, I'm going to go the M1T alone for the first run just to see how I react. I have some 6OXO for PCT, but I'm not sure if that's enough. I'm reading up on Nolva and related compounds and thinking about picking some up in the near future.

    I'll try a stack next time around. I'll probably pick up some 1ad and run it with the M4AD and see how that works out.

    Then I'll lay off for a while and just go natural, like I always have.
    run the 1-ad + m4ad cycle 1st

    m1t is a 17-alpha anabolic steroid, it is a lot more potent than the pro-hormones and if your gonna run PH it would be best to run them 1st and see how it goes

    m1t is not a good choice for first cycle, certainly not without 4ad! 4ad keeps the sides down, full m1t sides would be extremely harsh

    FYI i'm going to be running m1t as my 3rd or 4th cycle, wouldn't dream of doing it as a 1st cycle

    peace

Similar Threads

  1. Prohormones questions
    By norcal22 in forum Supplements
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 04-08-2011, 05:25 PM
  2. Noob with some questions and my story
    By elementz in forum New Members Begin Here!
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 09-09-2010, 08:58 PM
  3. Another anabolic noob with questions
    By omni in forum Anabolic Zone
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 01-29-2009, 07:17 PM
  4. Noob has M1-t questions.
    By chadrlz in forum Supplements
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-07-2008, 09:56 AM
  5. A few noob questions
    By maltesecorsair in forum Training
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-02-2008, 02:57 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


DISCLAIMER:
All health, fitness, diet, nutrition & supplement information presented on IronMagazineForums.com's pages is intended as an educational resource and is not intended as a substitute for proper medical advice. We do not condone the use of anabolic steroids (AAS), all information about AAS is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Consult your physician or health care professional before performing any of the exercises, or following any diet, nutrition or supplement advice described on this website. As well as any exercise technique or regimen, diet, supplement, etc., particularly if you are pregnant or nursing, or if you are elderly or have chronic or recurring medical conditions. Discontinue any exercise that causes you pain or severe discomfort and consult a medical expert. The statements made about products have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (U.S.). They are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any condition or disease. Please consult with your own physician or health care practitioner regarding the suggestions and recommendations made at IronMagazineForums.com. Neither the author of the information, nor the producer, nor distributors of such information make any warranty of any kind in regard to the content of the information presented on this website. Except as specifically stated on this site, neither IronMagazineForums.com, nor any of its authors or other representatives will be liable for damages arising out of, or in connection with the use of this site. This is a comprehensive limitation of liability that applies to all damages of any kind, including (without limitation) compensatory, direct, indirect or consequential damages, loss of data, income or profit, loss of or damage to property and claims of third parties. Sponsors pay for advertising space, we have no affiliation with the companies that have banners displayed on our websites. Please be advised it is your responsibility to check the laws that govern your country, state, or province in regards to items offered by some companies you may read about on this site.