My head is spinning after reading so much about various PHs...
After all that, I've decided to try stacking M1T and 4AD. My question is this - I ended up getting M4AD (methylated) instead of just 4AD.
Is this too much? If so should I stagger them?
Follow up question - recommended dosage per day per my body weight (see background below)?
Another follow up, while I have ya here...has anyone tried norbolone ester and if so, what were the results and would you recommend?
Background on me:
I'm 35, I've been lifting regularly since I was 18.
I'm in good general health; 5'11", 190#. I recently had a long stint of work where I was doing crazy hours and had little time for sleep, much less lifting. That said, I could stand to shed around 5 pounds of fat right now.
Have you ever run a PH cycle? M1T is not a pro-hormone, it is an anabolic steroid. If this is your first cycle, i wouldn't reccomend starting with something as strong as M1T, because you will almost definately see some mild sides. Also don't try to cut while running a bulking cycle like M1T. You need to increase your calorie intake to get the most out of the cycle. I suggest you run a search and read people's personal experiences with M1T.
Just a point of clarification. You can cut on M1T as well as bulk. Most folks bulk with it. But you can stack with 1AD for a cut. However, as stated in the post above, M1T is not a good starter PH/PS. IMO, I would not use two methylated PH/PS's together. Seems like it would be really hard on the liver.
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Thanks Robert - I actually read the FAQ, which is where I came across the M1T and 4AD combo. I see that I missed the part about avoiding more than 1 methylated compound at a time.
Again, thanks to all for any advice.
And - if anyone has tried norbolone ester - let me know pros / cons, etc.
But you can stack with 1AD for a cut. However, as stated in the post above, M1T is not a good starter PH/PS. IMO, I would not use two methylated PH/PS's together. Seems like it would be really hard on the liver.
Why would you want to run M1T, which is an anabolic steroid, along with something that is an intraglandular precursor of a hormone? They won't even kick in at the same time, about 4 days to a week before you start PCT with M1T, the 1-AD will start kicking in, so IMO it's a waste to run this stack. Bulk with M1T and if you want to run a cutting cycle, look into M4OHN. It takes longer for pro-hormones to get into your system, a good example is how many people front load 4-AD with M1T cycles b/c the M1T sides will hit you before the 4-AD kicks in if you start at the same time.
Thanks Robert - I actually read the FAQ, which is where I came across the M1T and 4AD combo. I see that I missed the part about avoiding more than 1 methylated compound at a time.
Again, thanks to all for any advice.
And - if anyone has tried norbolone ester - let me know pros / cons, etc.
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hey pick up some 1-ad and 4derm
and stack the 1-ad and m4ad together for 6 weeks as a first ph cycle, then providing that goes well run the m1t with the 4derm for a month
that is probably your best bet, unless you sell on the m4ad, you can also replace the 1-ad with a 1-test product such as big 1 and stack that instead
and stack the 1-ad and m4ad together for 6 weeks as a first ph cycle, then providing that goes well run the m1t with the 4derm for a month
that is probably your best bet, unless you sell on the m4ad, you can also replace the 1-ad with a 1-test product such as big 1 and stack that instead
peace
Thanks man, I'm going to go the M1T alone for the first run just to see how I react. I have some 6OXO for PCT, but I'm not sure if that's enough. I'm reading up on Nolva and related compounds and thinking about picking some up in the near future.
I'll try a stack next time around. I'll probably pick up some 1ad and run it with the M4AD and see how that works out.
Then I'll lay off for a while and just go natural, like I always have.
Thanks man, I'm going to go the M1T alone for the first run just to see how I react. I have some 6OXO for PCT, but I'm not sure if that's enough. I'm reading up on Nolva and related compounds and thinking about picking some up in the near future.
I'll try a stack next time around. I'll probably pick up some 1ad and run it with the M4AD and see how that works out.
Then I'll lay off for a while and just go natural, like I always have.
Don't do M1T alone.
Don't used 6OXO for PCT after M1T. Use Nolva.
Thanks man, I'm going to go the M1T alone for the first run just to see how I react. I have some 6OXO for PCT, but I'm not sure if that's enough. I'm reading up on Nolva and related compounds and thinking about picking some up in the near future.
I'll try a stack next time around. I'll probably pick up some 1ad and run it with the M4AD and see how that works out.
Then I'll lay off for a while and just go natural, like I always have.
run the 1-ad + m4ad cycle 1st
m1t is a 17-alpha anabolic steroid, it is a lot more potent than the pro-hormones and if your gonna run PH it would be best to run them 1st and see how it goes
m1t is not a good choice for first cycle, certainly not without 4ad! 4ad keeps the sides down, full m1t sides would be extremely harsh
FYI i'm going to be running m1t as my 3rd or 4th cycle, wouldn't dream of doing it as a 1st cycle
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