mrbuttchee

Anyone got suggestions on how much Nolva. should be taken PCT after the following m1t+4aderm stack? Also, should m1t be tappered off towards the end of cycle or kept the same/increased (as long as pct is immediately thereafter, of course)?

This was my cycle so far and I don't know how to finish the cycle or how to make the dosages of nolva:

day 1-2 5mg m1t
day 3-8 10mg m1t, 400-500mg 4derm
day 9-15 (today is day 15) 15mg m1t, approx 400-500mg
day 16-22 ??mg m1t , ??mg 4derm (I pretty much assume to keep the 4derm at the same dosage, my main concerns are the m1t and nolva for pct)

I want to keep the cycle short for the obvious unseen health concerns that come with all PH and PS... but I think I am getting some more bottles for the future (and may want to extend the cycle to 4 weeks when I see the new ones... teehee)

Any suggestions for dosages?

Thanks!


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lilros

M1t is a waste of time. Its bad for ur liver and makes you lethargic. Might as well git the real shit! Your dosages are far far to low. Your gonna work up to (at your peak) just under the recommended dosage of 20 mg per day. Just because the ban is not yet in place does not mean its safer of better. And what is 4Derm, that moisterizing lotion shit? Hardly worth the time or money. So much application is required to get those dosages. The most you can expect from this 3-4 week "cycle" are some side affects and probably not a single gained lb, unless your diet is right. Have you gained anything yet?
Probably dont have to worry about PCT at all since your dosage did not even touch recommendation. If you do take nolva Just keep it to a bare minimum! Not tryin to demoralize you or anything but IMO-- waste of time and money, drop whole idea.

Tha Don

sorry to dissapoint you but virtually everyone i've spoke to that has run M1T has had awesome gains! 3-4 week cycles generally result in LBM gains anywhere from 7-14lbs, which is one of the reasons why it is so popular! (people would not put up with the sides if gains were that shit man!)

I agree there are other steroids (mostly injectibles) which are a lot safer and more effective, but for an 'oral' roid M1T gains are pretty damm good!

peace

redspy

young d - you're correct, alot of people have made great gains while on cycle, but the key question is how many people have retained those gains? Most reports I've read suggest people lose most of the gains within 2-3 months.

gococksDJS

This is crap, have you ever run M1T? first off it is not a waste of time, while the gains are not close to real AAS, they are still impressive. I saw great gains off of a month cycle, and any oral steroid is going to be hell on your liver. 20mg's a day is way to high to start off, i say at the most start with 10mg's a day then go up if you wish. 4-Derm is not just some lotion shit, it is great at preventing lethargy. Not worry about PCT? now i know you have no experience with M1T. You need to run PCT with anything that shuts you down, especially since M1T shuts you down hard and fast. I gained about 16-18 lbs while on, and a lot of it was water weight but i kept a good 6-8 lbs, and did lose some of my gains but not all of them. Listening to people who tell you to run upward of 20mg's a day from the start with no 4-Derm and no PCT is where you are going to run into trouble. Sorry lilros but you don't know what your talking about, even if you think you do.

largepkg

I couldn't agree more!

This troll is supplying some serious misinformation. I've run two cycles of M1T and both were very impressive. Yes, I did lose a small amount of my gains but still the overall results were fantastic.

mrbuttchee, listen to nothing lilros has to say.

musclepump

M1T is good shit. A two week cycle saw me add some serious pounds even after I dropped the water.

Let's all join together and SPEAK ENGLISH IN AMERICA.

simbh

I havnt tried m1t yet , but all I can say , from what I've read , is that this guy doesnt know what hes talking about. Saying that you don't need to take a pct for m1t is fucking rediculous. Whatever your dosage is , if you run it , for the love of god do a pct. 6-oxo , nolva , whatever , at least do one. But I think nolva is what most recommend after doing a m1t cycle. Not doing a pct is fucking rediculous ... Check this thread to see what it could do to you. And this is only for someone who hasnt done a pct while on 1-ad , which is far less anabolic as m1t.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=40236 (1-AD - Get Libido Back Question)

You can see that lilros is trully ignorant. I havn't done a cycle yet of m1t , but geez , I dont give out dumb information .

When a goal is reached comes satisfaction . You're accomplished as a person when you surpass those goals .

gococksDJS

He says that you won't keep any muscle and that PCT won't be necessary. There's the reason why you haven't kept any gains lilros