S1+ or 1-AD/4-AD for first time.

**law74** · 12-19-2004, 11:52 AM

I am going to stock up on some products and was wondering which stack is more effective. Is a 1-test/ 4-ad transdermal such as S1+ a better choice than starting with the 1-AD pills / 4-ad transdermal. I am curious because I want to stock up on powders and could get alot more 1-test powder for cheaper price than the 1-ad pills being sold. ( i plan on making my own s1+ using 1-Test powder and 4-AD powder) I do understand that 1-ad and 1-test are essentially the same thing (1-AD turns into 1-test after oral delivery, while 1-Test is just absorbed through skin.)

Just wondering if anyone had any experience with both and which one worked better. Yes I have done a search through the threads but I can not find anything comparing these two delivery methods. Just want to make sure I am stocking the right things.

Also planning to use M-5AA with these. Later after some experience will use M-1T but want something lighter at first.

**law74** · 12-19-2004, 12:13 PM

anyone?

**gococksDJS** · 12-19-2004, 12:18 PM

I have used both and they are both good starters. Due to the ban, i would reccomend something like just buying one cycle of 1-AD and stocking up on bulk powders, but starting with S1+ is no problem. If your thinking of moving on to harder pro-steroids like M1T, i would reccomend just running real gear since they will all be the same legally, and because M1T is an oral anabolic steroid. If your scared of needles, you will get over it.

**law74** · 12-19-2004, 12:37 PM

Actually it is not necessarily true that they will be just as illegal. If you purchase your products before the ban the government can not punish you for then possessing them. Ex-Post facto clause. In other words if something is legal then becomes illegal, the government can not punish you for doing it while it was legal. Therefore any PH or PS you previously purchased would still be legal to possess. You just could not sell them or purchase any new ones.
More importantly, I wouldn't know where to purchase real gear if I tried. Not going to go around the gym and ask guys if they have any. These guys are huge!!! Don't want to look like a narc.

**law74** · 12-19-2004, 01:31 PM

Is there any proper way of going about finding real gear. I can get crack at any street corner but where to gear? Gear is also a street name for heroin. I don't want to inject the wrong thing. Or maybe I do. I might not care about having big muscles if I am high on Heroin.

**redspy** · 12-19-2004, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by law74

Is there any proper way of going about finding real gear. I can get crack at any street corner but where to gear? Gear is also a street name for heroin. I don't want to inject the wrong thing. Or maybe I do. I might not care about having big muscles if I am high on Heroin.

Nobody is going to help you with this request, if they do they are probably scammers. There are other boards with 'classifieds' sections for AAS, this isn't one of them.

**gococksDJS** · 12-19-2004, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by law74

Actually it is not necessarily true that they will be just as illegal. If you purchase your products before the ban the government can not punish you for then possessing them. Ex-Post facto clause. In other words if something is legal then becomes illegal, the government can not punish you for doing it while it was legal. Therefore any PH or PS you previously purchased would still be legal to possess. You just could not sell them or purchase any new ones.
More importantly, I wouldn't know where to purchase real gear if I tried. Not going to go around the gym and ask guys if they have any. These guys are huge!!! Don't want to look like a narc.

Wrong. Immediately after the ban goes into effect, if you are caught with even one pill of a substance that was banned, it is felony posession of a controlled substance. And listen to redspy's advice...

**redspy** · 12-19-2004, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

Wrong. Immediately after the ban goes into effect, if you are caught with even one pill of a substance that was banned, it is felony posession of a controlled substance.

I agree gococks, in January if you're unlucky enough to get caught in possession or distributing PHs you could be in legal hot water. With the current media focus on steroids there is some political capital to be gained by arresting careless PH users.

In addition there's always some prick in the DEA, local police, postal inspectors or feds looking for a promotion or PR opportunity.

**Pirate!** · 12-19-2004, 05:58 PM

I don't forsee a crack-down on PH/PS users, just sellers. As previously mentioned, it makes hot news as a political issue at this time.

**Pirate!** · 12-19-2004, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by law74

More importantly, I wouldn't know where to purchase real gear if I tried. Not going to go around the gym and ask guys if they have any. These guys are huge!!! Don't want to look like a narc.

Good call. When it is time, the juice will find you.

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