Thread: M1T Poll

If you are considering an M1T cycle, make sure you read the prohormone/prosteroid FAQ and then read this All my M1T research in one post. These will clear up any questions that you will have and set you on your way to an educated and productive M1T cycle.

I've run 2 cycles and have a few more planned. Its great stuff, provided you know what to expect and know how to use it, along with what else to use.

Its a personal decision, but I'd recommend it after all the research and planning is done.

I've not done m1t yet . But from what I've seen people say , they do have nice gains on m1t although it has very intense sides ... I've seen a lot of people say that people should just do reg roids in stead. Less sides , but that's stricktly what Ive seen.

how frequent would you do cylcels, or how long inbetween would you give it? Say 2 wk cycle 3 wk pct, then wait another 2 wks or so or longer before starting the next?

How about a 4 week cycle, 4 week PCT, then 4 weeks off.

Thats the most intelligent answer youll get.

i've done m1t twice and it certainly does work but i think slamming 2 bottles of s1+ (or a similar trans-d stack) in 6 weeks is really the way to go. basically, i just don't believe 2-4 weeks is enough time to add any appreciable size/ strength and unless it's anavar or winny, i ain't going 17aa again.

M1t should be limited to two cycles a year due to HDL and liver issues!

ditto what dg said

Ive always figured 4 per year as a limit. I dont think there is any exact number, there are too many variables.

are you pushing it taking a 4wk cycle being its only recommended for 2wks?
and how would you store this if you have a "supply", ie:room temperature, fridge temp,freezer temp or doesn't it matter.

The only side effects I've noticed from 1-test were slight lowering of Libido(came back after PCT) and chest pains. The chest pains scared the shit out of me so I never did many long cycles. This might not be related to the prohormones though, My diet is so high in cholesterol, it's just ridiculous. I had good gains though, although I cut off my M1T(not the brand, a different brand of methylated 1-testoterone) cycle at 2 weeks, next time I'll go 10 mg a day instead of 20. If you don't like sides run 4-ad and 19 nor-4-diol. That combo worked well for me.

Originally Posted by Curlingcadys

are you pushing it taking a 4wk cycle being its only recommended for 2wks?
and how would you store this if you have a "supply", ie:room temperature, fridge temp,freezer temp or doesn't it matter.

I might be pushing it with four, but id never go below 3. I get my best gains week 3, undoubtedly.

As for storage, I store all my drugs in my top drawer of my dresser. Its dark, and I like my bedroom at about 65.

Originally Posted by RCfootball87

The only side effects I've noticed from 1-test were slight lowering of Libido(came back after PCT) and chest pains. The chest pains scared the shit out of me so I never did many long cycles. This might not be related to the prohormones though, My diet is so high in cholesterol, it's just ridiculous. I had good gains though, although I cut off my M1T(not the brand, a different brand of methylated 1-testoterone) cycle at 2 weeks, next time I'll go 10 mg a day instead of 20. If you don't like sides run 4-ad and 19 nor-4-diol. That combo worked well for me.

Sides suck. Im not the only one that gets wicked sinus-infection-type symptoms. Yea, definite drainage problems. Usually a good headache too. My piss turns brown no matter how much I drink. And I lose my appetite and get grumpy. 4-ad helps with some sides, alleviates some, but never erases them.

But all in all, its still worth it.

Oh ya, there was a little loss of libido though. My girlfriend didnt mind too too much though, since it prolly brought me down to a normal persons level.

thanks for the tips.....

Moderate depression.... enough to make me sell my stash.

Don't forget flu-like symtoms.

Originally Posted by Luke9583

Don't forget flu-like symtoms.

Ya. What he said.

Originally Posted by RCfootball87

The only side effects I've noticed from 1-test were slight lowering of Libido(came back after PCT) and chest pains. The chest pains scared the shit out of me so I never did many long cycles. This might not be related to the prohormones though, My diet is so high in cholesterol, it's just ridiculous. I had good gains though, although I cut off my M1T(not the brand, a different brand of methylated 1-testoterone) cycle at 2 weeks, next time I'll go 10 mg a day instead of 20. If you don't like sides run 4-ad and 19 nor-4-diol. That combo worked well for me.

You took m1t/4ad/19nor at 17 years of age?

Thankfully, I don't get all those strange sides you guys do. Brown piss? That is scary. A little lethargy, mild cramps, intense pumps, and loss of libido during pct are the only noteworthy sides I had. Of course testicular atrophy is no good, either. I think M1T is awesome, but I wouldn't take it by itself. I would only take it with lots of test floating around--either from 4-ad or Testosterone--and HCG. Add it in the middle or end of a Test E or C cycle with HCG and it is freakin' Miracle Grow.

Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

Thankfully, I don't get all those strange sides you guys do. Brown piss? That is scary. A little lethargy, mild cramps, intense pumps, and loss of libido during pct are the only noteworthy sides I had. Of course testicular atrophy is no good, either. I think M1T is awesome, but I wouldn't take it by itself. I would only take it with lots of test floating around--either from 4-ad or Testosterone--and HCG. Add it in the middle or end of a Test E or C cycle with HCG and it is freakin' Miracle Grow.

i'll have to keep that in mind for the new year... test E and EQ, here i come!

Originally Posted by TCD

You took m1t/4ad/19nor at 17 years of age?

Just turned 17 so actually I was 16. I didn't take them all at once obviously. I did 4-ad and 1-AD for 3 weeks, followed by 3 weeks of 6-oxo. I could only last two weeks on Methylated 1 Test(Winni Depot was the brand), I stopped cause of the chest pains I mentioned. Next time I'll go with 10 mg a day instead of 20. I was impressed by the 4-ad and 1-ad cycle, gained 15 pounds in 3 weeks and kept like 12 of it after 6-oxo. If you consider side effects a factor, as most people here seem too, then I like 4-AD and 19-Nordiol, they go together like peanut butter and jelly. The test from 4-AD pretty much cancels out the deca dick you get from the nandrolone 19-nor converts too, and they're reasonably anabolic.
Now I know your gonna say I'm a fool for using and I know it's not wise. But I was already 5' 10" when I started and my dad's not quite 5'8". My mom's short. So it's not like I was gonna be 6'2", and I never would want to be that tall anyways. I've been developed sexually and everything for a long time, and I never really had any nut shrinkage. And I quit drinking entirely before I started because that would be liver suicide, so it keeps me out of trouble and focused on lifting. I also did a shitload of research before I ever took anything, and I've had two solid years of lifting under my belt, which isn't much but it's something. And save for the M1T all my dosages were relitively low. So I feel like I'm a lot better off than a lot of moronic, rooke lifting, uneducated about it, 21 year old pro-hormone users. And if I die young, then I hadn't planned on staying long anyways.

Originally Posted by du510

Sides suck. Im not the only one that gets wicked sinus-infection-type symptoms. Yea, definite drainage problems. Usually a good headache too. My piss turns brown no matter how much I drink. And I lose my appetite and get grumpy. 4-ad helps with some sides, alleviates some, but never erases them.

But all in all, its still worth it.

Oh ya, there was a little loss of libido though. My girlfriend didnt mind too too much though, since it prolly brought me down to a normal persons level.

Yeah what pissed me off was I managed to completely avoid almost all the listed side effects, but I kept getting those little chest pains. One night it felt like someone stabbed me for a second, and I'd been getting other smaller pains in my chest a couple times a day, so I stopped some of my cycles earlier than I wanted. What was odd about it was that it was never when I was working out that it happened, only when I was resting, mainly at night. Strange. I figure if I switch up my diet, and totally avoid caffeinated beverages, I should do okay in the future.

Originally Posted by RCfootball87

Yeah what pissed me off was I managed to completely avoid almost all the listed side effects, but I kept getting those little chest pains. One night it felt like someone stabbed me for a second, and I'd been getting other smaller pains in my chest a couple times a day, so I stopped some of my cycles earlier than I wanted. What was odd about it was that it was never when I was working out that it happened, only when I was resting, mainly at night. Strange. I figure if I switch up my diet, and totally avoid caffeinated beverages, I should do okay in the future.

Youre 17 and have run M1T? Thats not cool....

I guess its better that youre here learning about what youre doing than just running around doing it.

Originally Posted by RCfootball87

Now I know your gonna say I'm a fool for using and I know it's not wise. But I was already 5' 10" when I started and my dad's not quite 5'8". My mom's short. So it's not like I was gonna be 6'2", and I never would want to be that tall anyways. I've been developed sexually and everything for a long time, and I never really had any nut shrinkage. And I quit drinking entirely before I started because that would be liver suicide, so it keeps me out of trouble and focused on lifting. I also did a shitload of research before I ever took anything, and I've had two solid years of lifting under my belt, which isn't much but it's something. And save for the M1T all my dosages were relitively low. So I feel like I'm a lot better off than a lot of moronic, rooke lifting, uneducated about it, 21 year old pro-hormone users. And if I die young, then I hadn't planned on staying long anyways.

Educated, yes.

Wise, no.

Just because you're happy with your height is not cause for using something like that at such an early age. If you're so read-up on the topic, then surely you're aware of the growth plate issues, yes?

"And if I die young, then I hadn't planned on staying long anyways"

I hope you remember this attitude when you're 30 with a family that you want to watch grow up.

Originally Posted by du510

Youre 17 and have run M1T? Thats not cool....

I guess its better that youre here learning about what youre doing than just running around doing it.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by TCD

Educated, yes.

Wise, no.

Just because you're happy with your height is not cause for using something like that at such an early age. If you're so read-up on the topic, then surely you're aware of the growth plate issues, yes?

"And if I die young, then I hadn't planned on staying long anyways"

I hope you remember this attitude when you're 30 with a family that you want to watch grow up.

I know about the growth plates issue. They're most likely sealed and I'm done growing. But I suffered from Osgood Slaughters(mispelled big time) disease in my knees that caused massive inflammation and pain during football, and that is supposed to stop when my growth plates seal, so that is another positive. I think I'll be cool at 30, arnold was juicing at like 15 and he's how old now? And yeah you should make plans for the future, but I don't beleive on living only for future benefit when the future is not guaranteed.

Arnold has had more than his share of health problems. I wouldnt use him as an example.

Originally Posted by du510

Arnold has had more than his share of health problems. I wouldnt use him as an example.

Alright well then I guess I just don't give a fuck, I need size in high school, I have noreason to be big when I'm 25.

Originally Posted by RCfootball87

Alright well then I guess I just don't give a fuck

Ahhh, and real reasons come out....