m1t cycle

seven11 · 12-28-2004, 06:08 AM

im planing on starting my first m1t cycle this march for two weeks only and i will use armodex for pct... so now my question is how long do i wait before i start a 4 week cycle... and do i use the armodex right after or should i use it like in the 3 week or so, so i dont get too much estrogen, thx

Purdue Power · 12-28-2004, 12:35 PM

Well, I can tell that you havn't done much research and your knowledge of your cycle is way off. Read the Prohormone/Prosteroid FAQ and the M1T journal that I started (http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=36004 (All my M1T research in one post)). You have a long ways to go until you are ready to start your cycle. You are set to mess up your body pretty bad if you don't learn more.

**dg806** · 12-28-2004, 12:52 PM

Armodex????
Estrogen from M1T???
I'm lost.

cappo5150 · 12-28-2004, 01:15 PM

Purdue Power · 12-28-2004, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dg806

Armodex????
Estrogen from M1T???
I'm lost.

Ya like I said. He needs to do a lot more research. It is evident that he doesn't have much of an idea what is going on.

seven11 · 12-28-2004, 03:15 PM

oh thanks, but i realy thought i read some where that it does... well never mind
but about aromadex i've heard and read that it is a good pct for m1t and it is a estrogen blocker so i just figured u now

seven11 · 12-28-2004, 03:21 PM

oooohh im an idiot i wanted to say gyno... but i thought it comes from to much estrogen thats why i said that

Purdue Power · 12-28-2004, 04:42 PM

You will want Nolvadex for pct, and you can just use it in the event of gyno. The chances of gyno are very low, so there is no sense in running Arimidex through the cycle. You need to stack with 4Derm, which is transdermal 4AD, for your cycle.

ATFCanine · 01-08-2005, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Purdue Power

You will want Nolvadex for pct, and you can just use it in the event of gyno. The chances of gyno are very low, so there is no sense in running Arimidex through the cycle. You need to stack with 4Derm, which is transdermal 4AD, for your cycle.

What is a 4Derm, where can you get it? I have also started M1t, from VPX and Higher Power and I was also told that Aromadex is good for it, better than 6OXO, but that the Nolvadex is even better. So, where can you get the Nolvadex and 4Derm, please let me know ASAP since I've have just started my first pill from M1T, but I'll discontinue it until I have those two.

DOMS · 01-08-2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by seven11

im planing on starting my first m1t cycle this march for two weeks only and i will use armodex for pct... so now my question is how long do i wait before i start a 4 week cycle... and do i use the armodex right after or should i use it like in the 3 week or so, so i dont get too much estrogen, thx

And you're the guy talking smack about QuestionGuy?

gococksDJS · 01-08-2005, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ATFCanine

What is a 4Derm, where can you get it? I have also started M1t, from VPX and Higher Power and I was also told that Aromadex is good for it, better than 6OXO, but that the Nolvadex is even better. So, where can you get the Nolvadex and 4Derm, please let me know ASAP since I've have just started my first pill from M1T, but I'll discontinue it until I have those two.

uh...discontinue use until you learn more about the product your taking. You should always have nolva on hand before you start your cycle.

ATFCanine · 01-09-2005, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS

uh...discontinue use until you learn more about the product your taking. You should always have nolva on hand before you start your cycle.

That is what I'm trying to find. I do have aromadex and liver care and all that but if Nolvadex is better then that is what I want. Also wanted to know what that othe 4derm is.

QuestionGuy · 01-09-2005, 01:29 AM

dude, please do your body a favor and do research, just becasue we care about you....LOL.....4derm is 4-ad that you rub on you instead of swallow, it is much more effective then the oral version and does not need to be taken in high doses as the oral version....4-ad is something you might wana take to reduce common side such as lethargy and to get you "schlong" working (maintaining libido) reducing acne and help with gaining more weight...

ATFCanine · 01-09-2005, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

dude, please do your body a favor and do research, just becasue we care about you....LOL.....4derm is 4-ad that you rub on you instead of swallow, it is much more effective then the oral version and does not need to be taken in high doses as the oral version....4-ad is something you might wana take to reduce common side such as lethargy and to get you "schlong" working (maintaining libido) reducing acne and help with gaining more weight...

Fuck, why dont I get all these answers at the gym? When I'm buying all this shit? "This will make you rip, best price!!

" Thats all I get from them. lol They sold me Higher Power M1T, and VPX M1T and other lil stuff. No 4-ad no nolvadex. I think they want me dead!

Well, thanks again haha. I'm glad I stopped after the first pill of M1T.

QuestionGuy · 01-09-2005, 01:43 AM

hahaha, those assholes are like that, if they scare your ass and tell you the facts they wont sell the products....

Tha Don · 01-09-2005, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ATFCanine

I stopped after the first pill of M1T.

good call man

run a few searches in this forum, there are tons of m1t threads with everything you need to know in them.. after a month or so of reading and asking questions you'll be ready to run an solid cycle which will be much more worthwhile - its people who don't have a clue what they are doing that end up really fucking themselves up and regretting it (and you don't want this to be you), i'd most definately recommend picking up some 4derm to run along with you m1t when you decide to restart your cycle, also nolva IS A MUST for PCT on m1t, good luck

**Pirate!** · 01-09-2005, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

if they scare your ass and tell you the facts they wont sell the products....

I agree, but brokeass122 says he can't talk his customers out of buying 50 mg caps of M1T. Strange.

gococksDJS · 01-09-2005, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PirateFromHell

I agree, but brokeass122 says he can't talk his customers out of buying 50 mg caps of M1T. Strange.

brokeass122 also says anyone who doesn't run 50mg/ED is a pussy

ATFCanine · 01-09-2005, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by young d

good call man

i'd most definately recommend picking up some 4derm to run along with you m1t when you decide to restart your cycle, also nolva IS A MUST for PCT on m1t, good luck

Yeah definetly, I am looking for that 4derm and nolva. Gotta have it for sure!

QuestionGuy · 01-09-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gococksDJS

brokeass122 also says anyone who doesn't run 50mg/ED is a pussy

what the hell am I going to say on that ??? STUPID

well the last time we had a thread about 50mg of m1t in a capsule was it like 30mg of milk thistle and 20mg of acctual m1t, which is still a scary dose man!! lol....His customers probobly dont know what the hell it is for sure that is why....Anyway well I fell for a sales guy few months ago and bought me some oxavar and I fell for it like a true begginer

...I got to do some serious research before I try it, I did hear it is good....

QuestionGuy · 01-09-2005, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by young d

good call man

run a few searches in this forum, there are tons of m1t threads with everything you need to know in them.. after a month or so of reading and asking questions you'll be ready to run an solid cycle which will be much more worthwhile - its people who don't have a clue what they are doing that end up really fucking themselves up and regretting it (and you don't want this to be you), i'd most definately recommend picking up some 4derm to run along with you m1t when you decide to restart your cycle, also nolva IS A MUST for PCT on m1t, good luck

hey man, that is exactly the same thing I told him, exactly.

QuestionGuy · 01-09-2005, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by seven11

im planing on starting my first m1t cycle this march for two weeks only and i will use armodex for pct... so now my question is how long do i wait before i start a 4 week cycle... and do i use the armodex right after or should i use it like in the 3 week or so, so i dont get too much estrogen, thx

I thought we decided not to run this shit man ??

ATFCanine · 01-09-2005, 12:34 PM

Yeah you better listen to them, aromadex is not as good as nolva. I have aromadex and I'll just keep it for the future for the lighter stuff. You better get some of that nolva for m1t. I learned my lesson on here!!

QuestionGuy · 01-09-2005, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATFCanine

Yeah you better listen to them, aromadex is not as good as nolva. I have aromadex and I'll just keep it for the future for the lighter stuff. You better get some of that nolva for m1t. I learned my lesson on here!!

Pa reko sam ti daje nolva bolja nego aromadex...LOL

ATFCanine · 01-09-2005, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

Pa reko sam ti daje nolva bolja nego aromadex...LOL

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttt???? Alen??

QuestionGuy · 01-09-2005, 12:58 PM

ops, ja mislio ti znas.

QuestionGuy · 01-09-2005, 12:59 PM

I am glad you decidet to do some research and ask question before you start your cycle..

ATFCanine · 01-09-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by QuestionGuy

I am glad you decidet to do some research and ask question before you start your cycle..

Yeah!! Thanks to you man!! If it wasnt for your advise I wouldnt have done any research and I'd be lifting with Sinisa right now and not have anything for sides, just like him. But I told him to check out this forum and maybe he'll learn something as well. Thanks man!! Oh and I have the link for Nolvadex, like you told me to find it and here it is...For the Nolvadex, http://www.ibenutrition.com/aqs.htm. It is the USP Tomoxifen Citrate. You can refer to http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=36004 for the dosage suggestions.

QuestionGuy · 01-09-2005, 01:11 PM

alright cool. I am not using m1t and not planning on it but i still love to do the research and trust me nolva is a must for pct from m1t....

12-28-2004, 06:08 AM	#1
seven11 Employee of the Month Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Twenkie-ville Posts: 1,210 Photos: 6	m1t cycle im planing on starting my first m1t cycle this march for two weeks only and i will use armodex for pct... so now my question is how long do i wait before i start a 4 week cycle... and do i use the armodex right after or should i use it like in the 3 week or so, so i dont get too much estrogen, thx

12-28-2004, 12:35 PM	#2
Purdue Power Good Enough Never Is Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Purdue University Posts: 1,351 Photos: 5	Well, I can tell that you havn't done much research and your knowledge of your cycle is way off. Read the Prohormone/Prosteroid FAQ and the M1T journal that I started (http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=36004 (All my M1T research in one post)). You have a long ways to go until you are ready to start your cycle. You are set to mess up your body pretty bad if you don't learn more.
	5'8 1/2, 225lbs Your M1T Info Source Dream as though you'll live forever, Live each day like it's you last. Love like you've never been hurt. Tomorrow is never promised.

12-28-2004, 12:52 PM	#3
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,160	Armodex???? Estrogen from M1T??? I'm lost.
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12-28-2004, 04:42 PM	#8
Purdue Power Good Enough Never Is Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Purdue University Posts: 1,351 Photos: 5	You will want Nolvadex for pct, and you can just use it in the event of gyno. The chances of gyno are very low, so there is no sense in running Arimidex through the cycle. You need to stack with 4Derm, which is transdermal 4AD, for your cycle.
	5'8 1/2, 225lbs Your M1T Info Source Dream as though you'll live forever, Live each day like it's you last. Love like you've never been hurt. Tomorrow is never promised.

12-28-2004, 01:15 PM	#4
cappo5150 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 2,318 Photos: 1	haha

12-28-2004, 03:15 PM	#6
seven11 Employee of the Month Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Twenkie-ville Posts: 1,210 Photos: 6	oh thanks, but i realy thought i read some where that it does... well never mind but about aromadex i've heard and read that it is a good pct for m1t and it is a estrogen blocker so i just figured u now

12-28-2004, 03:21 PM	#7
seven11 Employee of the Month Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Twenkie-ville Posts: 1,210 Photos: 6	oooohh im an idiot i wanted to say gyno... but i thought it comes from to much estrogen thats why i said that

01-09-2005, 01:29 AM	#13
QuestionGuy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,177	dude, please do your body a favor and do research, just becasue we care about you....LOL.....4derm is 4-ad that you rub on you instead of swallow, it is much more effective then the oral version and does not need to be taken in high doses as the oral version....4-ad is something you might wana take to reduce common side such as lethargy and to get you "schlong" working (maintaining libido) reducing acne and help with gaining more weight...

01-09-2005, 01:43 AM	#15
QuestionGuy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,177	hahaha, those assholes are like that, if they scare your ass and tell you the facts they wont sell the products....

01-09-2005, 12:34 PM	#23
ATFCanine Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LA Posts: 66	Yeah you better listen to them, aromadex is not as good as nolva. I have aromadex and I'll just keep it for the future for the lighter stuff. You better get some of that nolva for m1t. I learned my lesson on here!!

01-09-2005, 12:58 PM	#26
QuestionGuy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,177	ops, ja mislio ti znas.

01-09-2005, 12:59 PM	#27
QuestionGuy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,177	I am glad you decidet to do some research and ask question before you start your cycle..

01-09-2005, 01:11 PM	#29
QuestionGuy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,177	alright cool. I am not using m1t and not planning on it but i still love to do the research and trust me nolva is a must for pct from m1t....