Tom_B

Well I have this "bump" on my lower abs that won't go away! I know your probably thinking "well you have to have a low bodyfat % " but the problem is is that I'm below 8% body fat right now and it's still there. I thought it to be loose skin since I lost 50 lbs in 3 months last year , so I thought a tummy tuck would fix that ...well I went into the docotrs appointment at my family doctors today (I need him to refer me to a plastic surgeion) but he didn't know what a tummy tuck was ..a doctor didn't know what i tummy tuck was , I had to explain it to him ..anyways..
I got him to look at it and to sum it all up he said I don't have excess skin and that the "bump" I have is because of my body , and my having wide hips , my body naturally stores all my fat on my lower abs and theres nothing I can do about that , he then said yes a tummy tuck would probably fix the "bump" and make me appear more flat but within a month of the surgery theat "bump" would be back because it's my bodys nature ...how he knows this since he didn't wven know what a tummy tuck was I have no idea ..
Anyways I still got him to set up a referal to a surgeon that will probably cost a couple of hundred , so my question is , I would be better off just getting these products if it's not lose skin that I have but fat. Or should I stick witht he referal of the tummy tuck because the doctor didn't even know what a tummy tuck was

sawastea

Lipoderm Ultra and Leptigen Basic should do the trick.

truth

You want lipo-ultra since you're at a low bf%

might even consider using capsacin with it..search "spooky lipoderm" on forums.avantlabs.com

Tom_B

Ok thanks guys

I searched for spooky lipoderm and capasacin on avant forums but only got two threads that just said it burns really badly , and I couldn't find any other info on it , or in the product section ...unless it's this stuff?
http://magazine.mindandmuscle.net/ma...159&issueID=15
I'll get the capasacin over the lipo-ultra even if it burns , I'll do anything to get rid of this stubborn fat
Also they mention they mix it all this other junk should I be looking into those products to? And you guys didn't mention ab-solved so I guess that won't help me?
One last question this stuff will work so long as your in a caloric deficit right? Your bodyfat can still be low for it to work right? Last time I got my bodyfat% checked they said I was at 8% , since then I've lost some weight so I'm probably around 6% right now , thats why I thought that "bump" was loose skin (same with my lower back..) because I'm at such a low bodyfat % but my doctor said that it wasn't loose skin and that it was purely fat, he said its where my body stores all it's fat due to my bone structure and wide hips .. arrg

thebrakes

i think we'd all like to see a pic of you at 6% BF...considering pros are at 5-6% when they're on stage...

and yeah, according to avantlabs' literature about lipoderm, "insulin spikes blunt the effect" - meaning keep your carbs low-moderate GI. i've always found this fact about lipoderm's "science" to be faulty...considering anyone who goes low-GI is probably going to lose weight anyways. sorta like saying "use my weight-gain compound but only while on a caloric surplus...otherwise it wont work" seems to convenient....

Tom_B

I use to have picture up of me , I just said I was at 6% , I didn't say how much I weighed or if I had alot of LBM did I? I'm 5'8 and 127.5lbs , trust me NO WHERE NEAR a pro!
I know what you mean , I use ot be very skeptical of these types of products , but theres been alot fo success stories from people , and right now I'm depsperate , it's really my last option..

QuestionGuy

dude maybe you got cancer ????? lol, not funny at all but it is worht considering...

bulletproof1

man you should be a motivational speaker

Rocco32

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

LAM

how do you know you are under 8% bf ?

I've never seen a male under 8% with fat on the lower abs..

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What you talking about Willis ?

Tom_B

how would this mean I have cancer?

Tom_B

Well when I was 120lbs I got my bodyfat % tested at a gym , I thought I might be like 15% bodyfat or something since I have no visible abs ..well they told me I was at 5% bodyfat ... I was skeptical , but anyways , I decided maybe I didn't have any visible abs because I didn't have enoguh msucle on me and had no abs to begin with , so I went on SLOW bulk (.25 - .5 lbs a week) doing weighted ab exercises (which actually made my stomach look worse , made it pop out more and the bump got bigger..) , got up to 136.5lbs and got my bodyfat % tested again but by a gym teacher at my school who said she has done courses and stuff as to how to measure bodyfat % , she did it and told me I was at 8% bodyfat ...well I didn't like how my body was turning out so I went on a cut , lost 9 pounds went back in got it again and she said I was at 6% bodyfat ..
Which is why I don't understand how I can have fat on my lower abs .. I thought it to be loose skin but my docotr is positive it's fat .. thats why I'm desperate as to know how i can get rid of it!

LAM

did they do a 3, 5 or 7 point caliper test when you got the reading of 8% bf ?

Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov

TBD

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What you talking about Willis ?

Tom_B

Well what she does is she takes a caliper and measures the back of my tricep , then the back of my back .. is that the correct way?
When they did it at the gym and I got the 5% bodyfat all they did was take a caliper and measure the side of my stomach ..

Twin Peak

Bodyfat tests are not particularly accurate at any state, and even worse at the lower levels.

In any event, I would like to see a picture of this "bump." If it is stubborn fat, Lipoderm Ultra will help. If it is skin, not so much. LeptiGen will help you continue your diet, but not this bump directly.

If you can see any abs at all at 8%, however, either you are not 8% or you are missing abdominal muscles.

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Tom_B

I can't get pictures , considering I don't have a camera ..I might be able to get some from a webcam though ..I can try doubtful though..
My abs aren't completely non visible , theres some defintion there , just barely it's just not that "six pack" .. it seems to be getting better , but I thinkt he reason I don't have such great defintion is because I had an eating disorder in the past , and I use to due 1,500 crunches if that at all matters ..
I think it's loose skin , but I'll humor my doctor/mother and go with it's fat and get the lipoderm -ultra .. or that spooky lipoderm , which I haven't found out which would be better or even what spooky lipoderm is , is it that link I posted earlier?

Twin Peak

The "spooky" version is just taking the LipoDerm and adding Capascian. It burns like hell, from what I hear.

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Tom_B

oo you have to add it on your own I thought it was already a prduct or something ...well knowing that I searched some more and finally found the article! ..it was under the orignial lipoderm the only place I didn't look ..
I think I'll try the spooky version , even if it does burn , I'm willing to try anything
I just have no idea how I'm suppos to find capsician and nictotine to add to it it said thers a particulary arthritis cream for the capsician and for the nictotine I can find it in cough losengess ..but it didn't say any brand names ..and well since I'm underage I don't think I can go up to a pharmasict and ask what they have that has nicotine in it , and if I aask my parents they'll just say no to the whole idea cause they understand nothing about this stuff...can anyone who mixed these please tell me the brand names or soemthing orf the stuff they used?