simbh

Ok , I'll be starting my 1-ad cycle in a few weeks. I plan on doing 300mg a day for 6 weeks .

After that I'll be doing nolva:
Week 1-2 : 40mg a day
Week 2-4 : 20mg a day
Along with the nolva I'll be taking a tribulus supplement , probably anabolic-matrix.

My question is . Is it really necessary to stack 1-ad with 4-ad or 4derm ? If I don't stack it with one or the other , will I have real bad sides or since 1-ad is kinda of a mild ph it wont be really bad. Feedback from people who have done 1-ad without stacking it with something would be a lot of help.
Oh ya , last question. If 4-ad is really essential , would it be ok to take it orally? I know I've asked this before , but I got mixed answers ...


Thanks in advance guys.

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Cardinal

I think your dose of 1AD is too low. I would run it at 600mg/ED for a first cycle if you wanted to be cautious. Dose is typically 600-900mg/ED. 6 weeks is perfect. 4AD is not necessary but it will give a nice libido boost and can give quite a bit of water retention, additionally serving as your base of testosterone throughout the cycle. The main side most people get from the 1AD is lethargy, which 4AD counteracts very nicely.

You likely won't see results from the 1AD until about the third week. Personally, I would stack the 1AD with Superdrol (1fast is planning a sale on it january 10th I think). I believe you would be much more impressed with your results having Superdrol in there, first cycle or not. Superdrol can be run for at least four weeks. In fact you could probably run it the whole 6 weeks.

Not sure what other PH/PS you have access to or I could make other suggestions too.

-Cardinal

419Para_Dice

yeah you can take it orally, and yeah, you should stack it if you want to be symptom free throughout your cycle.

you could bump your dose to 600 mg 1-ad, i would.

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Pirate!

Your cycle is perfect. 300 mg/day in three doses. No 4-AD. That was my first cycle, and it worked wonders. No need for higher doses your first cycle, unless you are over 200 lbs. Then, 400 mg/day would do. The more you take, the more lethargy you will have. A pre workout stim like ECA is recommended.

simbh

Ok , thank you for the feeback guys. I think 600mg would be too much though. I will stay at 300mg a day for the first few weeks , and I might up that to 400mg in the last weeks.

I'm limited to what I have access to though , since I live in canada and ph/ps are already illegal here . I already have my 1-ad on hand and the nolva. I can get some 4-ad pretty easily , but only orally.

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Pirate!

Don't bother with the 4-ad. It isn't necessary, and oral sucks at less than a gram a day.

simbh

ok , thx for the tip pirates ...

When a goal is reached comes satisfaction . You're accomplished as a person when you surpass those goals .

Tha Don

300mg is fine for a first cycle man, like pirate says if you can't get hold of 4derm don't bother... oral 4-ad ain't worth it for what i've heard

good luck with your cycle, be sure to let us know how you get on

peace

simbh

Yep , I will . Man , its like Xmas is starting in a week. I just cant wait to start it , but I just want to make sure my back is 100% to start it !!!!!

When a goal is reached comes satisfaction . You're accomplished as a person when you surpass those goals .