ATFCanine

Is Aromadex from VPX better than 6OXO while using Methyl 1 Test? I heard that it is because Methyl 1 test is stronger than just regular 1 Test. I was told about some Novadex (not sure of the spelling) that this is the ultimate Estrogen, and other side effects blocker.

Also, I have bought all these Methyl 1 Test, from VPX to Higher Power. I also bought Uni Liver, liver care. I was told not to use the liver care with the Methyl 1 test because the Methyl 1 test will not have the same effect. So, I was advised to use the Uni Liver a week before I start my cycle, and after my cycle (not during). Is that true?

Thanks for all help!!

Curlingcadys

Oh god no!!! please please use that little search button on top of your computer screen.....

Pirate!

ATFCanine

Got it, thanks

gococksDJS

Hey my man, you do know that you are about to start taking an anabolic steroid don't you?

RCfootball87

Hope he's not really in the A.T.F.........

back for the first time....

ATFCanine

Ha ha..not yet.

Going back to the subject, anybody know where to get that 4derm?

QuestionGuy

dude, everyone has different opinions but everyone is going to tell you that you should NOT fuck with this stuff before exactly knowing what it does to you.....Nolvadex is the best PCT you can get, but people have different opinions on weather 6oxo is better then aromadex (most say aromadex is better). You should not run m1t for more then 2 weeks...and should probobly start some milk thistle before and after your cycle (liver care).. is you want to reduce some of the sides you should get some 4-ad to reduce lethargy and other common sides....and remember pct is just as important as the cycle itself...

QuestionGuy

And DO NOT use your pct product during your m1t cycle man!

ATFCanine

Ahhh, Finally an answer that I actually need to write down, thanks! I do have liver care, I've already started it, will do it for about a week before I start the m1t. I do have the aromadex but I will buy the nolvadex, do you know any good legite sites? Also, one last question I am trying to get answered, should I keep using my Uni Liver (liver care) while I'm using the m1t? I heard that you should not use liver care at the same time, only before and after m1t because m1t will not have a good effect.

Thanks!

QuestionGuy

word is that you can use it but your m1t is not going to be as effective...

ATFCanine

Thats what I heard as well. I guess I'll just use the liver care a few days longer, get that nolvadex and start my cycle with m1t.

I just wanted to thank all of you, if it wasnt for this forum who knows what I would have done to my body. I was just sold all that stuff but did not get that much feed back, thanks again!

QuestionGuy

of course there are more people who know much more in here who may post their opinions but I told you everything I know from hours of research......

gococksDJS

ATF what dose are you planning on running and for how long? Are you taking anything for sides like lethargy etc. ?

DOMS

Bulk Nutrition just got some in. It was out of stock just a few days ago. I didn't think they'd restock. So I bought some 4AD power from Custom Nutrition Warehouse. You can add it a transport matrix.

Good luck!

Witmaster

I've actually been told that this is a common misunderstanding. Taking Milk Thistle will not have a negative impact on the effectiveness of M1T

NEVER write a check with your mouth that you can't cash with your ASS!!

I can run faster mad than you can scared

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ATFCanine

Well first of all I need to buy Nolva and 4derm. I do have aromadex but obcviously it is not as good. I have done 1 test before, like 1 test alpha and some other stuff. I also have Uni Liver for this M1T and I have already started the Uni Liver (liver care) and will take it for about a week or so before I start M1T. I was thinking that I should use M1T for about 2 weeks for my first cycle. Then use that Nolva and 4derm. Take a few weeks off and then do a 3 week cycle, hopefully everything goes good. That is pretty much my plan. I have a few bottles of M1T, like VPX that is in fluid and Higher Power which is in pill form. But of course I do not mean to take all that in 2 months. That stuff will last me for a while.

So, as soon as I find that 4derm its on!!! I have a link for Nolva that I found on here, http://www.medcenterstore.com/drug-nolvadex , so I guess i'll be buying from that site.

Curlingcadys

There's a lot on here just have to actually look, heres more!!
1. (Prohormone / Prosteroid FAQ - Everything You Need to Know!)
2. (All my M1T research in one post)
3. (PCT help)
4. (M1T + 4DERM stack, Nolva PCT: dosage review)
5. (Better than Tamoxifen)

QuestionGuy

yeah thats cool, I was told the same thing and i think even some of the pros in here mentioned that milk thistle will fuck with the "effectiveness" of m1t...

MTN WARRIOR

Must agree with my esteemed military colleague, I have never seen anything that has alluded to less effectiveness when taken during the cycle. In fact, I have seen that you SHOULD take Liver support during the cycle because that is when the liver is being damaged the most. It help inhibits the damage. Once the damage is done, if any, then the damage is done, even thought the liver can regenerate some cells. That is my 2 cents worth.

THAT WHICH DOES NOT KILL ME, CERTAINLY MUST MAKE ME STRONGER

ATFCanine

Hmm, maybe it all depends on the person. Some should take it some do not have to. I'll keep on taking the liver care for a few more days and then discontinue it when I start M1T. In case I start feeling pain I will take the liver care again even if I'm on M1T. Hopefully it will not be that bad, my body is kind of used to prohormones.

QuestionGuy

yeah that is what it thought at first too becasue it made sence...but then I got different opinions, so cool, you learn something different everyday I guess...

QuestionGuy

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ST240

i thought when using anabolics (since were getting into the prescription drug world now) clomid was a better PCT item rather than nolva if you had to choose between one or the other??

just curious

gococksDJS

Im not sure if im reading this right or not. Are you saying your going to run the M1T for 2 weeks, then run the 4Derm and nolva? If so, this is no good. First off I think you need to run the M1T for at least 3 weeks, but if you do stick with two then frontload the 4Derm for a week. I personally think a good first M1T cycle, since you have done 1-Test, would be 4 weeks of M1T increasing dosage as you see fit depending on your sides, along with 4Derm, which you can frontload if you want to, then stop taking both of them and start PCT. Don't forget time on=time off, including PCT.

ATFCanine

I'll have to see how my body accepts the M1T. If after the first 2 weeks I feel better than ever then I might just go for the 3rd, my friend advised me of the same. Thne take time off and the next cycle will be a week longer than the first. I do not have 4derm yet but will soon so I cannot start it yet. As soon as I get it I plan on using it through out my cycle. Nolva will defenetly be after M1T. I'm ordering those two, nolva and 4derm, tonight so I should get it soon. I am also taking liver care, Uni Liver, right now. Have been for almost a week. But as soon as I start M1T I will discontinue liver care (of course I'll start it again after M1T cycle). I belive that is a pretty good, safe plan.

gococksDJS

If the sides are bad, you will obviously stop the cycle correct? So why not just keep going past 2 weeks if you haven't encountered any problems? IMO 2 weeks isn't enough to see the possible gains that can come from M1T.

ATFCanine

Yeah thats what I ment. At first I thought I should take it easy, start off with 2 weeks on M1T since I have so much of it. But now I think that 3 weeks to start would be OK. Esp. since I've done other stuff.