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Old 01-10-2005, 06:05 PM   #1
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Question Need some honest opinions please.

Hi,

I will be starting PH's for the first time in a while soon..

since I have taken 1-AD before I was looking into something stronger, and came across 2 products.. M1T(not sure which company yet, I saw a bunch)
and 1-TU(nutrex)

I have some concerns about M1T, out of allllll the faqs I read about it, somethings make me want to take something less intense, but it also seems that I would get some nice gains from M1T, also the 1-TU seems really good..

here are my concerns:

1: I would like some good lean mass, but I dont want to much mass, that is whats bothering me about taking the M1T, I hear it puts on alot of muscle weight, so I'm wondering, is it safe for me to do cardio maybe 2 times per week while on M1T? because I want to cut my abs a little, but I'm afraid to gain to much mass around my stomach from the M1T.. then I look fat, lol..

2: also, it is pretty hard for me to get nolvadex, I have found some websites that sell it, but I am not sure if they would ship it to canada, can I just take 60X0 for a pct? or can someone inform me maybe by pm if there are any worth while online sotres that will ship nolvadex to canada..

please let me know..

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Old 01-10-2005, 08:22 PM   #2
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take a look at my dev. journal i just started. i am eating a moderate caloric deficit while on M1T to strip fat from my body while adding a little lean mass in the meantime.

6oxo is ok, but nolva is much better. i dont know many sources for nolva since my source just stopped selling it :/

i love M1T, its great stuff, just be smart with it. i started with a 2 week cycle and at 10mg/day. i upped it to 20 mg/day after i determined my body accepted 10mg. again, play it smart, but its definitely worth the money IMO



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Old 01-10-2005, 08:25 PM   #3
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Lol cool I was just reading your threads about it.

well I thought about a 4 weeks cycle..But i'm not sure yet
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Old 01-10-2005, 08:36 PM   #4
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what were your previous cycles like? how many cycles and how long were they? dosages?



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Old 01-10-2005, 09:23 PM   #5
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Pure ice , I'm assuming you're french if you live in montreal. So bonjour

I live in gatineau btw. I am about to start a 1-ad cycle and I just got some nolva. I ordered it from this site : http://www.inhousedrugstore.com/wome...tamoxifen.html .
It's at your own risk since it might be intercepted at the borders. But the way they pack it and the discription is well done so it doesn't look like a suspicious package. I got it no problem in about 10 days and it was during the holidays. I thought it was worth the risk of being intercepted and me loosing 40$ (the 40$ includes shipping).

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Old 01-10-2005, 09:29 PM   #6
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Oh ya , and if you want to do m1t , I would strongly recommend nolva. It can be done with 6-oxo . I've seen people here that posted they did the post cycle with 6-oxo , but it will cost you a lot and wont be as effective.



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Ok, this is somewhat how my past cycles went,


first ever cycle of any PH was androstendiol, cant remember honestly how many i took(always pills) but it was for 4 weeks..

actually all the andro cycles were 4 weeks

when i took 1-AD it was 6 weeks

the A-100 was only for 5 day cause of the wierd side effects..

then the last cycle of 1-AD i started only lasted like 2 days cause when i hurt my back..

I made some mistakes, that was like 2-3 years ago about, I will not make the same mistakes again.. this time I read up on all products I take..

also, I live in montreal, I speak no french at all, lol..

I hope I can get nolva, or even M1T for that matter, cause I can't remember if the place I go to has it or not, I know they got 1-TU, vpx, and ergopharm stuff..

I'm just trying to figure out if i get 4-ad, do I take it during my M1T/1-TU cycle? or during the pct cycle???

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Pure ice :

Here's a site for some m1t. Its near toronto. They have great service fast shipping.

http://xtremesportsnutrition.com/sto...?idCategory=51

That's where I got my prohormones They have some m1t .



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I'm just trying to figure out if i get 4-ad, do I take it during my M1T/1-TU cycle? or during the pct cycle???

thanks for the replys
Get 4Derm and run it during the cycle. PCT doesn't start until your off all PH/PS's. You do know M1T is an anabolic steroid don't you?
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Yeah definetly get some 4derm and nolva. Like gococksDJS said, do not run nolva while you are on your m1t. Unless you notice some sides, if your nipples get sore or start feeling funny I'd suggest that you start nolva.

Most people on here have recomended to me to use the 4derm while you are on m1t, through out the cycle that is. I have just started mine, my friend has been on m1t for a bout a week now and has already gained like 7 lbs. His arms are much more pumped! He wanted to bulk up but i'm sure you'll be satisfied even for your goals.



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Get 4Derm and run it during the cycle. PCT doesn't start until your off all PH/PS's. You do know M1T is an anabolic steroid don't you?
wha! I was told M1T is a herbal supplement!


O.o lol

I'll look around to see if I can find 4derm, but I'm guessing that 4derm is like nolva or 60x0?

about the pct, I was told either start your pct during the last 3 days of your PH cycle, or the next day after..

but another thing, I hear M1T puts alot of mass on you, I don't want to much mass, thats the problem..

I was thinking of taking just the 1-TU, but i'm still not sure, I really need a good insight on exactly what M1T does, does it make you massive and bulky? or massive but lean??



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wha! I was told M1T is a herbal supplement!
HELL NO! who told you that?
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wha! I was told M1T is a herbal supplement!


O.o lol

I'll look around to see if I can find 4derm, but I'm guessing that 4derm is like nolva or 60x0?

about the pct, I was told either start your pct during the last 3 days of your PH cycle, or the next day after..

but another thing, I hear M1T puts alot of mass on you, I don't want to much mass, thats the problem..

I was thinking of taking just the 1-TU, but i'm still not sure, I really need a good insight on exactly what M1T does, does it make you massive and bulky? or massive but lean??



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None of the stuff youve been asking about are herbal supplements. They are either prohormones or pro-steroids, and while they are called pro-steroids, they are still anabolic steroids. Read up a little more because M1T is hard on your body and you get hit hard and fast with temporary sides like libido loss and lethargy. Don't jump into it until you know what you are doing.
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lol guys I was kidding about the herbal supplement..

I read every day about all these things, I am getting to know there effects pretty well..

But something I don't understand, how does the nutrex 1-TU work? it seems like its pills, but I hear people saying different..

also, I really want to take M1T, but it seems it is the most common supplement to give you the most side effects..

thursday I will make my final choice about what I will take, because that is when I will buy what ever i decided..

thanks for the replys, again I was joking about the herbal thing, lol..
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