1,4 andro

**seven11** · 01-12-2005, 11:55 PM

well since i heard that that stuff aint going to be banned i just wanna know if it is a good mass builder or whatever it is good for.... i just want some feedback on that
thx

**rrgg** · 01-13-2005, 05:42 AM

Just a minor point-- It's not on the ban list but most think it will be added by the attorney general. You'll notice that retailers aren't restocking this...

**19-chief** · 01-13-2005, 08:03 AM

it's a weak ph that is best stacked to be effective. also, it needs to be run for a longer period of time than other ph's (8-12 weeks.) this makes it impractical b/c of cost. $3.70/g is expensive considering the dose needed is 600-1200mg/ED. it is reported to have the same benefits as boldenone... increased appetite, negligable but maintainable lean mass gains, increased EPO and aerobic capacity. i have a cycle planned, see thread http://ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=41457, but i don't know when i'll get to it.

**rrgg** · 01-13-2005, 08:24 AM

If you want something better than $3.70/g, please PM me.

**19-chief** · 01-13-2005, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by rrgg

If you want something better than $3.70/g, please PM me.

i'm sorry. should've quoted my source... 1fast400 1,4 diol caps... 90x200mg= $66.99.
rrgg did do me right with a great 1,4 price... just waiting on the mailman.

**milwood** · 01-14-2005, 05:01 PM

Stuff is a good stacker, especially since it has good oral bioavailability. Does require relatively high daily dosing, though. The 1,4 diol is dry compared to the 1,4 dione. I have used both successfully and recommend.

**seven11** · 01-14-2005, 09:41 PM

thanks for all ur feed back guys, i was just wondering if this is any good for puttin on mass by its self without stacking it with other stuff, well cuz the rest wont be legal no more......... grr god damn it

hehehe

**seven11** · 01-14-2005, 09:42 PM

well i didnt mean to put the red angry face infront of the text but oh well im a noob here

**rrgg** · 01-14-2005, 10:48 PM

if this is any good for puttin on mass by its self

Some guys have tried using it to put on "clean" gains. There are mixed reports though.

**milwood** · 01-14-2005, 11:07 PM

It will work, as will most PH's, to some degree. Nothing wrong with that. If you're looking for size, though, it's just a proven fact that synergism with other compounds makes substantially more growth possible.

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