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    This article by Rick Collins is taken from Meso, but thought it would be of interest.....
    Q: After the 20th of January, do you expect to see consumers arrested by the cops for getting caught with a stash of prohormones that they stocked up on?


    A: Unlikely in the near future. While
    anyone who possesses the newly controlled products will be a drug criminal, for now the products will be controlled only at the federal level (with very limited exceptions). This is important, since most steroid cases are brought in state courts, not federal courts. If the products aren’t scheduled by state laws, state courts can’t prosecute them as a controlled substance crime. Unless and until individual states pass legislation to make their laws consistent with the new federal law, which could take several months or even years, state authorities will have little incentive to go after prohormones.

    Q: What about the Feds? Will they start going after prohormone consumers?


    A: Possibly, although it’s doubtful that this would be an immediate priority for the DEA. Although the federal government can prosecute possession of any amount of a controlled substance, under the current U.S. Sentencing Guidelines (the system that determines federal criminal punishments) you’d need 12,500 prohormone tablets just to reach a Base Offense Level of 8 (0 to 6 months imprisonment, with straight probation available if a generally clean record), and 50,000 prohormone tablets just to reach a Base Offense Level of 10 (facing at most 6 to 12 months imprisonment if a generally clean record). So, although the maximum sentence by law for a first offense will be one year in prison, probation will be probable in the overwhelming number of potential cases.



    Q: How likely is it for someone who has something sitting in their fridge to be arrested?

    A: There are too many variables to answer that. Life is full of surprises, and no ethical lawyer, myself included, would advise anyone to possess any controlled substance unlawfully [for all the reasons in Legal Muscle]. Regardless, the people who have stocked up on prohormones have figured that the chances of getting caught are less once the item’s safely in one’s home. It’s true, based on the hundreds of steroid possession cases I’ve seen in my practice, that the vast majority of people who’ve been arrested for steroid possession got caught during the process of receiving or importing the drugs, not after they had them hidden in their house. All things considered, I don’t see an epidemic of prohormone arrests in the immediate future. But with prohormone prohibition, I see an impending rise in the black market of foreign veterinary steroids and resulting prosecutions for these products in state courts.



    Q: What about the manufacturers and retailers? Are they in jeopardy?


    A: Yes, if they remain in possession of products that are now controlled drugs. But most if not all companies have liquidated their stock and moved on to developing new sports nutrition products that are still legal. Some of the more popular products may remain on the market in foreign countries, if legally permitted by those countries’ laws. Some companies will investigate marketing new steroidal compounds that are not listed in the new law, although the legality of these products depends not only upon compliance with the new steroid law but also with the Dietary Supplements Health and Education Act (DSHEA). This may become more relevant than ever before now that FDA has taken a heightened interest in products containing “new dietary ingredients” that were not on the market back in 1994, the year DSHEA was enacted. Products containing new dietary ingredients must meet certain criteria or risk being branded “adulterated” and removed from the market, as happened to androstenedione last year. Under FDA’s new enforcement priorities and evolving standards, safety data on new dietary ingredients will come to be expected.

    Rick Collins

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    interesting

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    since most of you have grow rooms, weed, pills, coke, smack, syringes, and paraphernalia strewn around your houses, what the hell are a couple bottles of M1T gonna do to make a difference? Good God, who cares??? (Um... that's a joke. Please nobody get all bent...)

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    For those people out there (wherever they may be) that ordered PH's a couple of days before the ban and still haven't gotten them yet - could they open your package at the post office and prosecute you?

    Also, would there be any way for you to know if they subpoenaed some website's records asking for people that just bought PH's?

    Those seem to be the only two ways anyone could know. Tell me what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy
    For those people out there (wherever they may be) that ordered PH's a couple of days before the ban and still haven't gotten them yet - could they open your package at the post office and prosecute you?

    Also, would there be any way for you to know if they subpoenaed some website's records asking for people that just bought PH's?

    Those seem to be the only two ways anyone could know. Tell me what you think.
    If they are mailed after the ban then yes they can do a seizure but I doubt they will waste the time or manpower to get a kid who ordered 2 bottles of 1-AD. They can't subpoena a website asking for records of purchasing, becuase they were purchased when legal and they were sold when legal so you did not break the law, but if someone is still selling publicly after the ban they can get busted. IMO it will be a while before they start trying to do anything with people sourcing PH's. They probably think this new ban will bring more big gear sources out into the open and thats who they want to pop.

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    Do you think it would be a bad idea to open my package in the post office and start waving around my bottles and saying, "I have illegal drugs" really loud while streaking?

    In all seriousness, thanks for the response. It puts me at ease.

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    You're so funny!!! I think it would be funny to do that in the post office, I bet u the most probably thing is that the people in the post office will think: "This guy is nuts" and won't pay attention...


    In case if u decide to do it, make sure u have a camera so u can record everything and bring us the fun!!!

    LMAO!!!

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    P.S: Seriously, I think the ban is f*cked up... What's next then??? Creatine???

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    Ha! I know - that's one of those things that is so bizarre, people would think I was kidding and blow it off.

    I'd probably get into more trouble for being publicly naked...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flakko
    P.S: Seriously, I think the ban is f*cked up... What's next then??? Creatine???

    Um...well didn't I read a thread, maybe it wasn't on this board, but I think it was...and it mentioned that the prospect of banning creatine was an actual probability, and is being investigated....sorry my memory is foggy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silencer
    Um...well didn't I read a thread, maybe it wasn't on this board, but I think it was...and it mentioned that the prospect of banning creatine was an actual probability, and is being investigated....sorry my memory is foggy.
    I'd say there's very, very little chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flakko
    .... the people in the post office will think: "This guy is nuts" and won't pay attention...
    Wouldn't they think "THATguy" is nuts...
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    LOL. Touche.

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