Carb Blockers

jaim91 · 01-24-2005, 08:58 AM

I got free samples of these carb blocker pills that are supposed to prevent your body from absorbing a lot of the sugar in the carbs (or something to that effect). I was wondering if I shoudld take them. I mean, I have upwards of 200 grams of carbs per day, and it's causing me some serious water retention problems. I don't like the "going to bed bloated feeling", and I don't want to eat fewer carbs.

Should I take the pills, or just have some Coke or something after the carbs to pee out the excess water I'm retaining?

sawastea · 01-24-2005, 09:12 AM

I'm not a fan of the carb blockers, per se, but rather supplements that can aid in the disposal of glucose to your muscles, in lieu of your fat cells, such as ALA/R+. There is a new supplement out there that is K-R+ which I heard works well too. Carb blockers, from my reading, only help in possibly minimizing the glycemic index of the CHO, but not shuttling them w/o being processed in your system, which is not true. You got them for free, use them if you want.

The best way to avoid carbs is simple, either don't eat them or, more importantly, don't eat high GI/GL carbs which will spike your blood sugar.

JLB001 · 01-24-2005, 10:22 AM

Jaime....You don't need any carb blockers. You need those to be absorbed due to you being to skinny.

jaim91 · 01-25-2005, 11:57 AM

Of course I am going to continue eating the carbs (low and high GI), I just don't want the water retention and bloating that goes with it. I was wondering if the blockers would help me with that.

**calalily1972** · 01-25-2005, 12:07 PM

No they won't help with water retention and bloating.

korexite · 01-25-2005, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

No they won't help with water retention and bloating.

actually R+ala (glucorell, insopro, ect.) will help with bloating by reducing insulin.

**calalily1972** · 01-25-2005, 03:28 PM

Yes very much so

I was responding to the carb blockers which will not.

korexite · 01-25-2005, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

Yes very much so

I was responding to the carb blockers which will not.

ahh soo. it was not clear since above R+ was mentioned.

jaim91 · 01-26-2005, 09:57 AM

So where do I get the R+ala glucorell, insopro, ect.??

Curlingcadys · 01-26-2005, 05:18 PM

you're worried about bloating??????

JLB001 · 01-26-2005, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by korexite

actually R+ala (glucorell, insopro, ect.) will help with bloating by reducing insulin.

Korexite....You HAVE to realize this girl is about as big as a damn toothpick. If she's holding water you would not be able to tell. she's TALL and TOO THIN as it is.

Curlingcadys · 01-26-2005, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLB001

she's TALL and TOO THIN as it is.

Well I wasn't gonna be the first to say it..

I thought maybe she was ill in the pics..

korexite · 01-26-2005, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLB001

Korexite....You HAVE to realize this girl is about as big as a damn toothpick. If she's holding water you would not be able to tell. she's TALL and TOO THIN as it is.

I did not see her pics.

Butthe point is still that high insulin levels, regardless of bodyfat, height, etc will lead to greater water retention.

simbh · 01-26-2005, 08:20 PM

My advice is not worry about it jaim ... Really , just eat some clean carbs and you should be fine ... I don't know how much water you drink , but water does help put down some of the water retention ...

jaim91 · 01-27-2005, 02:17 PM

I eat clean carbs, and simple ones... You guys may not notice based on my pics, but I'm telling you, it's as uncomfortable as hell. And I've recently gone on the pill (J-ME's been baaad...shh...), so that's adding to the water retention. Am I too young (17 years old) for diuretics?

JLB001 · 01-27-2005, 04:53 PM

Yes you are.

jaim91 · 01-28-2005, 11:20 AM

So is there any solution to my problem?

brodus · 01-28-2005, 12:37 PM

Yes, the pill contributes to bloating. It's the main reason my g/f was reluctant to go back on it. However, not using the pill and "being bad" contributes to bloating of another kind that's much more permanent!

The newest pill, Ortho-LO, has less bloating and side effects, BTW.

Definitely DON'T use diueretics, especially if you play endurance sports, etc. They're a temporary solution at best, and will probably make matters worse in the least. You need to stay hydrated.

A Coke isn't going to help you pee out bloating. And I don't think you need R-ALA+/K-R-ALA.

What exactly are you eating before bed that's causing the bloating?

Are you lactose intolerant at all? Some people find that protein shakes and the "bodybuilder diet" makes them bloat, later to find out it's actually lactose sensitivity.

Do you supplement with Fish Oil? Do you take anything with Soy Isoflavones in it? Are you on any other perscription drugs?

Just trying to pinpoint the cause here!

**Dale Mabry** · 01-28-2005, 12:47 PM

If you are talking about GI Bloating Cinammon will help.

If you are talking about water underneath the skin then I believe you are a train wreck waiting to happen. You haven't an ounce of fat on you.

MTN WARRIOR · 01-28-2005, 01:00 PM

JAIM, you need to seek profesionally help honey. IMO you have an issue, either an eating disorder or esteem issue which is going to kill you if ou dont get some assistance. Sorry to be cruel, but based on your pics and your words, you think you are too fat. That is f***ed up

DemolitionNine · 01-28-2005, 01:10 PM

OMG Girl.

You're a walking stick! Seriously... E A T !!!!!!!!!!!

(not trying to be rude.. but goddamn!)

jaim91 · 01-28-2005, 04:07 PM

I know I'm a stick...I don't think I'm fat. I just retain water now that I'm eating a lot of carbs and on the pill...and needed a little help. that's all.

**Dale Mabry** · 01-28-2005, 05:28 PM

Take a current pic so we can se what the deal is.

jaim91 · 01-31-2005, 09:11 AM

The pics won't show the bloating. I've decided to drink a whole lot of caffeinated beverages (coffee, dr. pepper, diet coke) to help pee it out...it's working.

JLB001 · 01-31-2005, 09:46 AM

You seriously have issues.

DemolitionNine · 01-31-2005, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaim91

The pics won't show the bloating. I've decided to drink a whole lot of caffeinated beverages (coffee, dr. pepper, diet coke) to help pee it out...it's working.

Jaim... try Tea and water before pop. Pop will just CAUSE more bloating.

It'll also pack on the pounds too.....

Steer clear of pop as if it were the black plague.

It's good for cleaning car batteries, and blood off the highway ONLY.

-Matt

jaim91 · 01-31-2005, 12:55 PM

Even diet pop is bad for you? I hate the taste of tea (unless it has a lot fo cream in it), and I drink about 3-4L of water, but that's what I feel is staying in me.

SlimShady · 01-31-2005, 01:30 PM

Hey Jaim... you might want to go see a nutritionist and have them start you on a diet plan that will help you reach your goals. They can actually see you in real life, talk to you and listen to your probs. They aren't that expensive and it would be money well spent. They will set you straight on what you need to do and it will be healthy.

jaim91 · 01-31-2005, 06:10 PM

Last time I went to a nutritionist, she told me I have bad bacteria in my blood stream, and should stop eating everything except for kamut, spelt, veggies and fruit. I'm going to wait a little longer before my next visit. And I'm not going to drink oil...

jaim91 · 01-31-2005, 07:36 PM

The pics are up..in case anyone is interested...

01-24-2005, 08:58 AM	#1
jaim91 Ms. Olympia Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,484 Photos: 16	Carb Blockers I got free samples of these carb blocker pills that are supposed to prevent your body from absorbing a lot of the sugar in the carbs (or something to that effect). I was wondering if I shoudld take them. I mean, I have upwards of 200 grams of carbs per day, and it's causing me some serious water retention problems. I don't like the "going to bed bloated feeling", and I don't want to eat fewer carbs. Should I take the pills, or just have some Coke or something after the carbs to pee out the excess water I'm retaining?

01-24-2005, 10:22 AM	#3
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	Jaime....You don't need any carb blockers. You need those to be absorbed due to you being to skinny. "When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

01-26-2005, 08:20 PM	#14
simbh Simon Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greater Ottawa Region , Canada Posts: 986 Photos: 4	My advice is not worry about it jaim ... Really , just eat some clean carbs and you should be fine ... I don't know how much water you drink , but water does help put down some of the water retention ... When a goal is reached comes satisfaction . You're accomplished as a person when you surpass those goals .

01-27-2005, 04:53 PM	#16
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	Yes you are. "When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

01-28-2005, 12:37 PM	#18
brodus Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 945	Yes, the pill contributes to bloating. It's the main reason my g/f was reluctant to go back on it. However, not using the pill and "being bad" contributes to bloating of another kind that's much more permanent! The newest pill, Ortho-LO, has less bloating and side effects, BTW. Definitely DON'T use diueretics, especially if you play endurance sports, etc. They're a temporary solution at best, and will probably make matters worse in the least. You need to stay hydrated. A Coke isn't going to help you pee out bloating. And I don't think you need R-ALA+/K-R-ALA. What exactly are you eating before bed that's causing the bloating? Are you lactose intolerant at all? Some people find that protein shakes and the "bodybuilder diet" makes them bloat, later to find out it's actually lactose sensitivity. Do you supplement with Fish Oil? Do you take anything with Soy Isoflavones in it? Are you on any other perscription drugs? Just trying to pinpoint the cause here! Graham Cousens Band My Space http://www.flymantell.com http://www.bifunkal.com http://www.livebandkaraokechicago.com http://www.worldclassnoise.com

01-24-2005, 09:12 AM	#2
sawastea The Great One Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 132	I'm not a fan of the carb blockers, per se, but rather supplements that can aid in the disposal of glucose to your muscles, in lieu of your fat cells, such as ALA/R+. There is a new supplement out there that is K-R+ which I heard works well too. Carb blockers, from my reading, only help in possibly minimizing the glycemic index of the CHO, but not shuttling them w/o being processed in your system, which is not true. You got them for free, use them if you want. The best way to avoid carbs is simple, either don't eat them or, more importantly, don't eat high GI/GL carbs which will spike your blood sugar.

01-25-2005, 11:57 AM	#4
jaim91 Ms. Olympia Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,484 Photos: 16	Of course I am going to continue eating the carbs (low and high GI), I just don't want the water retention and bloating that goes with it. I was wondering if the blockers would help me with that.

01-25-2005, 12:07 PM	#5
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	No they won't help with water retention and bloating.

01-25-2005, 03:28 PM	#7
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	Yes very much so I was responding to the carb blockers which will not.

01-26-2005, 09:57 AM	#9
jaim91 Ms. Olympia Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,484 Photos: 16	So where do I get the R+ala glucorell, insopro, ect.??

01-26-2005, 05:18 PM	#10
Curlingcadys Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: WI Posts: 631	you're worried about bloating??????

01-27-2005, 02:17 PM	#15
jaim91 Ms. Olympia Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,484 Photos: 16	I eat clean carbs, and simple ones... You guys may not notice based on my pics, but I'm telling you, it's as uncomfortable as hell. And I've recently gone on the pill (J-ME's been baaad...shh...), so that's adding to the water retention. Am I too young (17 years old) for diuretics?

01-28-2005, 11:20 AM	#17
jaim91 Ms. Olympia Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,484 Photos: 16	So is there any solution to my problem?

01-28-2005, 12:47 PM	#19
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 14,335 Photos: 10	If you are talking about GI Bloating Cinammon will help. If you are talking about water underneath the skin then I believe you are a train wreck waiting to happen. You haven't an ounce of fat on you. If sense were common, everyone would have it. 4/2007-Current 75th Ranked most popular image 1 spot behind Prince's bulge...

01-28-2005, 01:00 PM	#20
MTN WARRIOR HOOAH!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOOAHVILLE Posts: 604	JAIM, you need to seek profesionally help honey. IMO you have an issue, either an eating disorder or esteem issue which is going to kill you if ou dont get some assistance. Sorry to be cruel, but based on your pics and your words, you think you are too fat. That is f***ed up THAT WHICH DOES NOT KILL ME, CERTAINLY MUST MAKE ME STRONGER

01-28-2005, 01:10 PM	#21
DemolitionNine Freerider Forever Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lenexa, KS Posts: 124	OMG Girl. You're a walking stick! Seriously... E A T !!!!!!!!!!! (not trying to be rude.. but goddamn!) 5' 10", 173lbs of (almost) pure muscle. Bench: 270lbs Incline: 210lbs Decline: 285lbs Curl: 145lbs (bar-style) Squat: 375lbs Live Long. Lift Strong. Ride Hard. Play Hard.

01-28-2005, 04:07 PM	#22
jaim91 Ms. Olympia Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,484 Photos: 16	I know I'm a stick...I don't think I'm fat. I just retain water now that I'm eating a lot of carbs and on the pill...and needed a little help. that's all.

01-28-2005, 05:28 PM	#23
Dale Mabry Moderator Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 14,335 Photos: 10	Take a current pic so we can se what the deal is. If sense were common, everyone would have it. 4/2007-Current 75th Ranked most popular image 1 spot behind Prince's bulge...

01-31-2005, 09:11 AM	#24
jaim91 Ms. Olympia Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,484 Photos: 16	The pics won't show the bloating. I've decided to drink a whole lot of caffeinated beverages (coffee, dr. pepper, diet coke) to help pee it out...it's working.

01-31-2005, 09:46 AM	#25
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	You seriously have issues. "When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

01-31-2005, 12:55 PM	#27
jaim91 Ms. Olympia Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,484 Photos: 16	Even diet pop is bad for you? I hate the taste of tea (unless it has a lot fo cream in it), and I drink about 3-4L of water, but that's what I feel is staying in me.

01-31-2005, 01:30 PM	#28
SlimShady Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 471 Photos: 2	Hey Jaim... you might want to go see a nutritionist and have them start you on a diet plan that will help you reach your goals. They can actually see you in real life, talk to you and listen to your probs. They aren't that expensive and it would be money well spent. They will set you straight on what you need to do and it will be healthy.

01-31-2005, 06:10 PM	#29
jaim91 Ms. Olympia Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,484 Photos: 16	Last time I went to a nutritionist, she told me I have bad bacteria in my blood stream, and should stop eating everything except for kamut, spelt, veggies and fruit. I'm going to wait a little longer before my next visit. And I'm not going to drink oil...

01-31-2005, 07:36 PM	#30
jaim91 Ms. Olympia Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,484 Photos: 16	The pics are up..in case anyone is interested...

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