1 Test PCT

**MP fit** · 02-22-2005, 06:37 AM

I was wondering if 6-oxo is strong enough to restore my testosterone after a 6 week cycle of VPX's 1-Test.

**Cold Iron** · 02-22-2005, 09:09 AM

Not likely. You'd be better off to grab some nolva.

**gococksDJS** · 02-22-2005, 09:22 AM

The only thing 6-oxo is good for is 1-AD, so get yourself some nolva.

**brodus** · 02-22-2005, 09:32 AM

I disagree. VPX 1-T oral is underdosed to begin with. 1T oral has less bioavailability than 1AD. Add into the mix that Nolva is a carcinogen, and some people prefer to limit their intake of carcinogens. 6-OXO should be fine for 1T, unless you pinning the cypionate in excess of a gram a week. Not to mention 6 weeks is a short cycle by most standards.

Now, if it was M1T, I'd say yes, Nolva.

**Luke8395** · 02-22-2005, 11:04 AM

Depending on this dudes' hormones, and history, I agree with Brodus. 1-t doesn't come ANYWHERE near shutting me down.

**Luke8395** · 02-22-2005, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by young d

why? 1-ad shuts you down just like every other PH/steroid, i'd go with nolva over 6oxo regardless of what your running

Some people run tribulus only PCT's and don't have problems at all! I think the secret is a balanced diet. (call me crazy). I've run a couple cycles that didn't come even close to shutting me down.

I'm a firm beleiver that the nolva dosage that's commonly advised here is like firing a cannonball at a misquito. And nolva is very toxic from what i've read.

**gococksDJS** · 02-22-2005, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Luke8395

Some people run tribulus only PCT's and don't have problems at all! I think the secret is a balanced diet. (call me crazy). I've run a couple cycles that didn't come even close to shutting me down.

I'm a firm beleiver that the nolva dosage that's commonly advised here is like firing a cannonball at a misquito. And nolva is very toxic from what i've read.

Have you ever run nolva for PCT? Running a test booster may seem good, but what about estrogen levels? PCT is when you will or won't lose most of your gains, and the key is getting your test levels back up quickly. Even though you may not feel shut down, you are still shut down, just not as hard depending on what your running. Diet is key during PCT, but won't do much for your budding boobies when your estrogen levels increase due to the fact that your only running a test booster like tribulus.

**musclepump** · 02-22-2005, 12:32 PM

I'd use Nolva.

**Luke8395** · 02-22-2005, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

Have you ever run nolva for PCT? .

I am right now. And I have used 6-oxo in the past, and I've used tribulus alone for 1-t/4ad cycles (not condoning this, but it's done.)

Originally Posted by gococks

Running a test booster may seem good, but what about estrogen levels? PCT is when you will or won't lose most of your gains, and the key is getting your test levels back up quickly. Even though you may not feel shut down, you are still shut down, just not as hard depending on what your running. Diet is key during PCT, but won't do much for your budding boobies when your estrogen levels increase due to the fact that your only running a test booster like tribulus

Have you even seen anybody monitor Post cycle estrogen levels? I didn't even break out on cycle.

**brodus** · 02-22-2005, 12:58 PM

Okay, who here knows the oral efficacy of 1T?

And who has ever gotten gyno from estro rebound following ORAL 1T?

Agreed that estro supression is important when running PCT following a 12-week cycle of DECA/TEST.

But you realize that 6-OXO's action is due to the fact that it is a suicidal aromatase inhibitor, which is why we see the rise in test while on it? In other words, it does supress free estrogen?

"It is what science refers to as a suicide inhibitor of aromatase. Specifically this means that it will irreversibly bind to the aromatase enzyme and permanently deactivate it. With prolonged use of 6-OXO the result will be a very substantial reduction in the production of estrogen in the body, along with a coinciding up-regulation of natural (testicular) testosterone production. "

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