1-ad cycle question

**darek22** · 02-22-2005, 10:57 PM

hey , I'm on day 24 of my 1ad/4ad cycle i have gone from 195 to 235 (of that weight maby 20% fat rest muscle, i eat truckloads of chicken, cottage chease and oatmeal) now the question i have: i started with 300mg per day, i wanted to do a constant increase of dosage and at day 24 im up to 800mg per day... i havent seen resluts for 4 to 5 days now in weight , initially i planned a 6 week cycle now... would it hurt me too much to run 800mg per day till the end (maby increasing to 900mg) or since im not getting inscreases should i stop it at 4 weeks and hit NOLVA for 4 weeks

anotehr thought: i might maby consider reducing the dosage gradually untill 300mg till the 6th week,

also... i need to do a good cut cycle after 4 weeks of pct, what stack worked the best for you guys for cut?

**Tha Don** · 02-23-2005, 06:04 AM

195 to 235... so a 40lbs gain from 1-ad!!

i've barely added 5lbs and i'm about to finish a 6 week cycle stacked with 4ad

**Malves** · 02-23-2005, 06:10 AM

I'm on week 6, too. But I gained 12lbs in 5 weeks. But damn..40lbs??!!

**Stu** · 02-23-2005, 06:11 AM

thats almost 2lb per day!

**darek22** · 02-23-2005, 09:55 AM

considering that im full CONSTANTLY and i drink alot of water and that 20% of it is fat... its maby 20 lb of muscle

**gococksDJS** · 02-23-2005, 10:01 AM

20lbs of muscle from 1-AD? come on...

**simbh** · 02-23-2005, 09:54 PM

800mg/day though ... That is a noticebly high dose.

**gococksDJS** · 02-23-2005, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by simbh

800mg/day though ... That is a noticebly high dose.

But 20lbs of muscle is incredible with anabolics, and in 24 days is unheard of. There is something up with these stats, you don't put on 20lbs. of muscle in 24 days with 1-AD

**iMan323** · 02-24-2005, 05:01 PM

He's not lying...I've seen him. I almost shit my pants when I did...

**iMan323** · 02-24-2005, 05:03 PM

darek, tell them how much 4-Derm you use.

**QuestionGuy** · 02-24-2005, 05:25 PM

why the fuck would you want to run more and increase the risk of side effects if you already are gaining like crazy, to be honest I dont beleive you, peopole put on 1 pound per day on a high dose of m1t...and you are putting on 2 pounds per day from 1-ad??? either you are a bit BS'ing us or 80% of what you have ained is water...

**iMan323** · 02-24-2005, 05:34 PM

baaaaahhh... why are you so trigger happy QuestionGuy? I know this guy, I saw him last Friday, and his gains didn't look like water.

**QuestionGuy** · 02-24-2005, 05:40 PM

ok ok ok............good for him, really thats awesome!!! But why the fuck is he asking to increase the dosahe then?? Why would he risk more sides, when he is already making crazy gains ?

**gococksDJS** · 02-24-2005, 08:11 PM

This isn't true. I don't care who backs you. You can't put on 20 lbs. of muscle in 24 days with 1-AD.

**thatguy** · 02-24-2005, 08:13 PM

I'll take some before and after pics, please.

**Tha Don** · 02-25-2005, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by gococksDJS

This isn't true. I don't care who backs you. You can't put on 20 lbs. of muscle in 24 days with 1-AD.

indeed, and putting on 40lbs of weight in 24 days is gonna lead to some serious BP problems! i really don't think it is possible even on all the juice in the world

800mg/day though ... That is a noticebly high dose.

oh and that means double the gains? hell no, there are way more factors involved, plus he started on 300mg and tapered the dose up... a dumb thing to do on 1-ad! seeing that it has to convert so he is barely going to get any benefit of putting up the dose towards the end of the cycle apart from being more shut down when he comes off

even if he was previously anorexic and had never picked up a weight before in his life, 40lbs gain (20lbs LBM gain) in 24 days is not physically possible

c'mon get real guys

**iMan323** · 02-25-2005, 08:34 AM

Wow, haha. Fine, don't believe me either. I would have a hard time swallowing that either, had I not seen it. This guy had limbs the size of tree trunks after shedding something like 35% of his bodyweight.

You guys just have trouble accepting that somebody with superior genes for gaining muscle can put on this much weight in such a short time. Is it a healthy thing to do 800mgs of 1-AD and something like 400mgs of 4-AD on your first cycle? I think not. Is he going to be shut down like hell after he's throgh with the cycle? I have no doubt.

But is it possible? Fuck yeah.

**thatguy** · 02-25-2005, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by iMan323

Wow, haha. Fine, don't believe me either. I would have a hard time swallowing that either, had I not seen it. This guy had limbs the size of tree trunks after shedding something like 35% of his bodyweight.

You guys just have trouble accepting that somebody with superior genes for gaining muscle can put on this much weight in such a short time. Is it a healthy thing to do 800mgs of 1-AD and something like 400mgs of 4-AD on your first cycle? I think not. Is he going to be shut down like hell after he's throgh with the cycle? I have no doubt.

But is it possible? Fuck yeah.

Actually 400 mgs of 4-AD isn't really an especially high dose. 800 of 1-AD, however, is twice what most would recommend.

**gococksDJS** · 02-25-2005, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by iMan323

Wow, haha. Fine, don't believe me either. I would have a hard time swallowing that either, had I not seen it. This guy had limbs the size of tree trunks after shedding something like 35% of his bodyweight.

You guys just have trouble accepting that somebody with superior genes for gaining muscle can put on this much weight in such a short time. Is it a healthy thing to do 800mgs of 1-AD and something like 400mgs of 4-AD on your first cycle? I think not. Is he going to be shut down like hell after he's throgh with the cycle? I have no doubt.

But is it possible? Fuck yeah.

are you measuring in milligrams? The thing I have trouble with is that ive never heard of anyone putting on 20 lbs. of muscle in just over 3 weeks with real gear, so there's no doubt your either mistaken or lying. I'll believe 20lbs, but not 20lbs of muscle.

**gococksDJS** · 02-25-2005, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by iMan323

Wow, haha. Fine, don't believe me either. I would have a hard time swallowing that either, had I not seen it. This guy had limbs the size of tree trunks after shedding something like 35% of his bodyweight.

You guys just have trouble accepting that somebody with superior genes for gaining muscle can put on this much weight in such a short time. Is it a healthy thing to do 800mgs of 1-AD and something like 400mgs of 4-AD on your first cycle? I think not. Is he going to be shut down like hell after he's throgh with the cycle? I have no doubt.

But is it possible? Fuck yeah.

are you measuring in milligrams? The thing I have trouble with is that ive never heard of anyone putting on 20 lbs. of muscle in just over 3 weeks with real gear, so there's no doubt your either mistaken or lying. I'll believe 20lbs, but not 20lbs of muscle.

**Tha Don** · 02-25-2005, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by darek22

hey , I'm on day 24 of my 1ad/4ad cycle i have gone from 195 to 235

cocks where do you get 20lbs from???

thats 40lbs hes claiming man

**iMan323** · 02-25-2005, 04:39 PM

Ok, I give up. He's lying and I'm artificially inflating the numbers. What POSSIBLE motivation might we have for this? Impress you? Sell you things? Yes, it's a clever marketing ploy.

You guys are fucking retarted.

**gococksDJS** · 02-25-2005, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by young d

cocks where do you get 20lbs from???

thats 40lbs hes claiming man

he claims 20lbs of it is muscle, which is complete bullshit.

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