Thread: Results from my 1-AD cycle

Have you tried M1T? You might try a cycle of that before real gear and see if it's any better than the 1-AD. How much were you taking, btw? And how much 4-AD?

Originally Posted by musclepump

Have you tried M1T? You might try a cycle of that before real gear and see if it's any better than the 1-AD. How much were you taking, btw? And how much 4-AD?

sorry forgot to mention... 400mg 1-ad and 300mg 4derm ed.

Just a note: You say the gains weren't great? YOur arms made tremendous gains, especially in that amount of time. I won't disagree that trying different things is a good idea, cause it IS a good idea, but don't downplay gains like that! Arms are hard to grow for most everyone in my experience. It took me a while to get to 16 inch arms (and that ain't very big), and it is hell trying to get them bigger. I'd kill to go to 16.5! I WILL get there, but not in the amount of time you did, for sure.

nice journaling of your progress by the way....I'd like more people to post stuff like that.

Originally Posted by young d

sorry forgot to mention... 400mg 1-ad and 300mg 4derm ed.

I purchased 1 ad and 4 derm... but there is no inst on back of the bottle of the 4derm... how many "squirts did you use, and when?

How many squirts per bottle?

Thanks,
Bobby

Originally Posted by NiceGuy

I purchased 1 ad and 4 derm... but there is no inst on back of the bottle of the 4derm... how many "squirts did you use, and when?

How many squirts per bottle?

Thanks,
Bobby

Nutrabolics 4Derm?

11lbs within a month is nice work, YD.

Do a good 3-4 weeks PCT and keep as much as you can, then spend maybe 3-4 weeks peeling away the extra 2.5% you added.

Originally Posted by young d

here are some readings and recordings taken from my personal progress log:

16/01 - Weight Recording
Time: 11:30
Weight: 83.8kg
BF: 14%
LBM: 72.07kg
Fat M: 11.73kg
Guns: 14.8 inch


17/01 - START 1-AD + 4-AD CYCLE

23/01 - Weight Recording
Time: 12:30
Weight: 86kg
BF: 15%
LBM: 73.1kg
Fat M: 12.9kg
Guns: 15 inch


30/01 - Weight Recording
Time: 10:00
Weight: 86.6kg
BF: 16%
LBM: 72.74kg
Fat M: 13.86kg


6/02 - Weight Recording
Time: 11:00
Weight: 87.8kg
BF: 15%
LBM: 74.63kg
Fat M: 13.17kg


27/02 - Weight Recording
Time: 10:30
Weight: 88.9kg
BF: 16.5%
LBM: 74.23kg
Fat M: 14.67kg
Guns: 15.4 inch

27/01 - FINISH 1-AD CYCLE

so overall my weight went from 83.8kg to 88.9kg
LBM 72.07kg from 74.23kg
BF% from 14% to 16.5%
Guns from 14.8 inches to 15.4 inches

i'd say i do look slightly bigger now, just a little thicker but nothing overly noticeable and certainly nothing to rave about, i am dissapointed i didn't add more LBM, to be honest i might have been able to get an extra lb or 2 if i'd upped my cal intake more, and a lot women trouble + heavy uni workload has made the past few weeks very stressful, it certainly hasn't helped things, but my workouts and meal timing has been on point pretty much everyday

a little concerned with the fat gain but i can only imagine that is water weight, i don't feel any fatter than before but its very hard to tell as i don't add fat to my midsection or upper body (its all on my arse and face)

another thing to note is that i came off CEE midway through my cycle due to being so bloated, so this may have effected things slightly as the CEE was working wonders for me, despite this i still managed to add 10kg to my working bench sets (from 6 x 95kg to 8 x 105kg) and bent over rows (8 x 65kg to 5 x 80kg), i didn't deadlift heavy as i was having a lot of lower back problems (really tight feeling at the bottom of my spine, very odd, but it was giving me problems running and just bending over to pick up weights too)

i'm pretty happy with the strength gains, although small it has got me through a lot of sticking points which i'm glad about, i expected to gain more weight so i'm a little dissapointed at that but overall a 5lbs gain in 6 weeks is not too bad, at least i gained something, but was it worth the cost, time and effort, i really don't think so!

i also got some strong lethargy, depression at the start of the cycle, mood swings, minor acne on the top of my back and some painful shoulder pumps

the good news is i got no signs of gyno and no visable nut shrinkage - hopefully i'll be able to get it up tomorrow night as my girl is staying round, i'll be really pissed off if i have any trouble, just gonna pop about 20 trib tabs before she gets round, that should get me in the mood

i've decided this will be my first and last PH/PS cycle, after my pct its straight on to juice, might cut first depending how my BF% is at the end of PCT, anything above 14 and i'ma cut forsure

thanks to all those who supported me and helped make my first cycle a successful one, in particular piratefromhell, redspy, gococks, purduepower and luke... couldn't have done it without you guys!

Originally Posted by musclepump

Have you tried M1T? You might try a cycle of that before real gear and see if it's any better than the 1-AD. How much were you taking, btw? And how much 4-AD?

ahem... M1T is a steroid. And its harsher on the body like few of the "real" AAS.

He may want to try something stronger than 1AD, there's a lot of stuff both PH and AAS that he can try before the hardcore stuff like A-50, fina, etc.

Originally Posted by TCD

11lbs within a month is nice work, YD.

Do a good 3-4 weeks PCT and keep as much as you can, then spend maybe 3-4 weeks peeling away the extra 2.5% you added.

thanks for the comments tcd, that exactly what i'm planning to do

Originally Posted by Syr

ahem... M1T is a steroid. And its harsher on the body like few of the "real" AAS.

He may want to try something stronger than 1AD, there's a lot of stuff both PH and AAS that he can try before the hardcore stuff like A-50, fina, etc.

agreed, FYI my next cycle will be dbol/test

Good progress YD, great cycle information too. You'll make much better gains with the test/dbol obviously. How long are you going to be "off" before you start your next cycle?

Originally Posted by Syr

ahem... M1T is a steroid. And its harsher on the body like few of the "real" AAS.

He may want to try something stronger than 1AD, there's a lot of stuff both PH and AAS that he can try before the hardcore stuff like A-50, fina, etc.

True, it is, but with "real" AAS you have needles and things to worry about, proper cleaning sites, all that which is a task in its own to understand and get to work on.

Originally Posted by musclepump

True, it is, but with "real" AAS you have needles and things to worry about, proper cleaning sites, all that which is a task in its own to understand and get to work on.

sterilizing is no problem at all, and you will quickly learn the best way to stick yourself, or you'll be walking around sore as shit for a few days.

Originally Posted by NiceGuy

I purchased 1 ad and 4 derm... but there is no inst on back of the bottle of the 4derm... how many "squirts did you use, and when?

How many squirts per bottle?

Thanks,
Bobby

this post made me fuckin laugh...
hahahahahaha

Originally Posted by redspy

Good progress YD, great cycle information too. You'll make much better gains with the test/dbol obviously. How long are you going to be "off" before you start your next cycle?

thanks redspy

well i'm unsure at the moment, but i'd est. around the end of april/start of may, gonna do a little trimming and maybe check out clen before then