Thread: M1T 2 times a year

The hepatotoxicity level of M1T is very high, and despite the use of milk thistle, it is very taxing on your body, as well as your HPTA. It shuts you down hard and fast. Your plan of 4 on, 6 off is not a safe one. Time on=Time off at minimum, and that includes PCT, so if you a 4 week cycle, you would do a 4 week PCT then at least 8 weeks off, but like I said, it's very rough on your body. Get some bloodwork done after 1 cycle and you'll see what I mean.

Completely agree with gococks on this.

Originally Posted by redspy

Completely agree with gococks on this.

Thanks Assistant Manager of Goldcock Labs...

thanks the only reason I asked was because i have about 5 bottles of 180 cap M1T from underground labs. Will it loose its potency after about a year? How long will it keep. I also read a post about how some M1T is very potent to begin with, how often does that happen?

One thing I have noticed, anecdotally, is that the more you do it, the worse the sidees get. The first time I did m1t I had no probs aside from occasional cramping in my chest. The second time I took it, I got headaches and major cramping everywhere. This is similar to what a buddy of mine noticed as well. I won't be hitting the m1t again, I know that much. Besides, with it being illegal, I would go with test anyway.

dude, i wouldn't do 900 caps of m1t spread out over a lifetime. use it strategically and it will certainly serve it's purpose. (as a kick-start at 10mg ED, maybe.) but like dale said, go with good old testosterone when the time comes. practice patience and common sense, young jedi.

agree with the wisdom above stated. With M1T, play it safe. @ 2 times/year, you will be remaining mindful of one of the goals of your training (hopefully), which is health & longevity. Blood work is very advisable as well!

I know a guy on this board who did four 4-week cycles in one year for a net gain of 25 lbs with no complaints. I believe he didn't get bloodwork done, but he had no health problems. He was doing 25-30 mg/day on the last cycle.

So My first cycle should be about 10 mg a day. Then the next cycle should be 15 then 20 and so on.I don't want to go over 25 mg ever. When should I take them throughout the day?

The biggest problem is what it does to lipid profiles. You can do PCT and be pretty much recovered and ready to go again, but your lipids are still tanked. This is not good for your heart and arteries. Just do bloodwork during or right after M1T and you will see. It takes several months for these values to return to normal. So that is why you see 2 times a year mentioned. I have seen a couple lucky individuals that it does not affect as bad as most, but I would expect bad lipid values and hope for the best.

My only problem with M1T cycles was the cramping in my legs. My (military) training requires that I run. While on M1T and for several weeks after my cycle my legs were in absolute agony whenever I would run.

Is there any supplement I can take to help the heart problem you talked about? Should I take supplements pre cycle so my body will be in top shape? Like Milk thistle and any cardiovascular supplements?

Originally Posted by dg806

The biggest problem is what it does to lipid profiles. You can do PCT and be pretty much recovered and ready to go again, but your lipids are still tanked. This is not good for your heart and arteries. Just do bloodwork during or right after M1T and you will see. It takes several months for these values to return to normal. So that is why you see 2 times a year mentioned. I have seen a couple lucky individuals that it does not affect as bad as most, but I would expect bad lipid values and hope for the best.

Can you explain more about how it fucks with your lipids?

Most steriods affect your HDL and LDL/cholesterol level. More so than others, just depending on what you are taking, with Winstrol being one of the worst.
The use of steriods raises the level of cholesterol which causes thickening of arterial walls.
Steroids contribute to the development of cardio vascular disease, partly by changing the levels of lipoproteins that carry cholesterol in the blood. Steroids, particularly the oral types, increase the level of low-density lipoprotein (LDL) and decrease the level of high-density lipoprotein (HDL). High LDL and low HDL levels increase the risk of atherosclerosis, a condition in which fatty substances are deposited inside arteries and disrupt blood flow. If blood is prevented from reaching the heart, the result can be a heart attack. If blood is prevented from reaching the brain, the result can be a stroke.

I have bad genetics and mine are always borderline to begin with. I take fish oil caps and niacin daily to keep mine in the good range. My total cholesterol is always good, but my HDL is always on the low side and my LDL is always on the high side.

Oh I see now. I didnt realize when you were saying lipids that you were refering to cholesterol. Thanks for the explantion. I will remember this incase it ever applies to me.

Originally Posted by dg806

I have bad genetics and mine are always borderline to begin with. I take fish oil caps and niacin daily to keep mine in the good range. My total cholesterol is always good, but my HDL is always on the low side and my LDL is always on the high side.

What role does niacin play in controlling cholesterol levels?