Should I take a weightgainer?

LilDiezel · 05-27-2005, 06:47 PM

I was thinking on taking these shakes that have 700 calories to build up mass but i'm skeptical about it because I'm curious if I will get fat Will I get fat or gain muscle if I take a weight gainer? Here is the link on the shake I want to take. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/tl/gainers.html

Rocky_B · 05-27-2005, 06:51 PM

Take one that doesnt have fructose as like the second ingredient... The best ones are very high in carbs and calories, but have little sugar. I recommend Masstech, as it is high in carbs, calories and protein, but has very little sugar. This will ensure that you put on lean mass, as opposed to fat from sugar

..

Btw Masstech also has 3g's of Creatine Mono per serving, so take it twice a day and you're all set to become The Hulk.

The Weightgainer you want has 72 grams of sugar..
Masstech has 6 grams of sugar..

You can figure it out from there.

LAM · 05-27-2005, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocky_B

Take one that doesnt have fructose as like the second ingredient... The best ones are very high in carbs and calories, but have little sugar. I recommend Masstech, as it is high in carbs, calories and protein, but has very little sugar. This will ensure that you put on lean mass, as opposed to fat from sugar

..

Btw Masstech also has 3g's of Creatine Mono per serving, so take it twice a day and you're all set to become The Hulk.

The Weightgainer you want has 72 grams of sugar..
Masstech has 6 grams of sugar..

You can figure it out from there.

here is a good lesson in reading nutrition labels. the primary ingredient in Mass Tech is maltodextrin which is a glucose polymer. basically it is a long chained molecule of glucose/dextrose. maltodextrin has a very high GI, the same as dextrose at 100.

unfortunately deceptive lableing practices from supplement manufactures allow them to list maltodextrin as a complex carbohydrate when in reality it is not. the sugar content per serving is not 6 grams but closer to the 150 gram total that is listed.

http://www23.netrition.com/muscletec...tech_page.html

Flakko · 05-27-2005, 11:32 PM

You'll find a lot of opposed opinions, some will say don't take a gainer, do it yourself, other gonna say, do it!!!

IMO, I've been using Cytogainer and ON Serious Mass with great results, but it also depends on your main goal, right now I'm bulking, so far I've gained around 20lbs since January.

As Rocky B said, try to get a gainer low in sugar, Cytogainer has only 5g I think and has 3g of Creatine Monohydrate, and it mix easily, you can give it a try. Also, Serious Mass is a good one. I take twice a day with milk, one after w/o and one before bed, the only thing is that it has just 50g of protein per serving, the serving is big and has over 1,000 calories, what I do, I split it in 2 services and add a scoop os ON 100% Whey, plus 16oz of milk, which gonna give a great shake

ABLQ2 · 05-27-2005, 11:47 PM

Muscle Juice 2544 is an awesome weight gainer.

the fact of the matter is, no matter what youre going to put on some fat, but the fat provides extra energy to build muscle.

-and if it happens to have a lot of sugar in it, take it directly after a workout so you burn off most of the sugar leaving the important nutrients for recovery.

crazy8 · 05-28-2005, 01:43 AM

ABLQ2: I am thinking of getting muscle juice. Have you been having good results with it? How long have you been using it? Is it true that it actually tastes good to?Im not looking to gain per say but I want to bulk up, build up, and be leaner is Muscle Juice something i should get then?
Thanx alot

ABLQ2 · 05-28-2005, 03:32 AM

I've had amazing results with it, i gained 15 pounds in a month on it - ive been using it for about a month. i'd say my bodyfat percentage only went up about 1%, and it tastes incredibly sweet. almost so sweet it makes me want to vomit - but ya its good in a smoothie especially. id say if use it youll bulk up quick, but youll have to cut a bit after you use it all.

Arrhar!! · 05-28-2005, 05:15 AM

most weight gainers sucks, most of them are expensive and contains a shit load of sugar, you are better off making your own, get whey protein, and mix it with milk, add honey or peanut butter or whatever, up to you.

Tha Don · 05-28-2005, 08:24 AM

you just can't beat whey and oats, instant high quality nutrition in a glass, i drink a good 2-3 of them a day, either along with other food, as my pre-workout shake, or as a standalone. why would you waste your money on a tub of sugar when there are much better more cost effective alternatives

LAM · 05-28-2005, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABLQ2

I've had amazing results with it, i gained 15 pounds in a month on it - ive been using it for about a month.

the majority of that weight is from increased muslce glycogen storage and water. for the most part high sugar weight gainers are ineffective for gaining lean body mass. after a while your insulin sensitivity will be shot and you will see a great increase in fat gains

min0 lee · 05-28-2005, 10:23 AM

Archive: Ask Anthony Ellis - Part III
Posted on Monday, November 01 @ 07:44:58 MST

Quote:

Anthony, I really want to gain weight badly so I bought a weight gainer powder recommended by the supplement store salesperson. Do you recommend these?

Well, it's a little late to ask me since you've already bought it, but NO. I definitely do not recommend them. The idea of a higher calorie, easy to drink shake is great, unfortunately most weight gainer products are less than ideal. These products are remnants of the "high carb" 80's, back when everyone recommended eating carbs to gain muscle. Almost all weight gainers on the market contains tons of carbs in the form of sugar. That alone should be enough to make you avoid the product, but they also contain VERY LITTLE protein.

Think about these two points 1) Protein is what builds muscle, not carbs. 2) Excess sugar consumption typically leads to accelerated body fat storage.

When looking for a MRP, or even a weight gainer, look for products that have plenty of high quality protein (preferably whey), and low sugar content. Overall, the product should have much more protein than total carbs and very little sugar.

I really want to gain more muscle, but I'm afraid I will gain fat. I'm not your typical skinny guy. I'm thin, but I also have a large stomach and some love handles. I recently got my body fat measured and it's 28% Is it possible to be skinny and fat? What should I do?

Yes it is possible to be thin and still have high body fat levels. Being "slim" doesn't necessarily mean you have low body fat levels.

I have seen many results from many different types of people on high calorie diets. From my experience, individuals starting a high calorie diet with a high body fat level will tend to gain more fat than muscle. This could quite possibly be due to a sluggish "fat storer" metabolism. On the flipside, individuals starting a high calorie diet with already low body fat levels tend to gain more muscle than fat.

Since you have a fairly high body fat level, you should first go on a fat loss diet to lower your body fat. This will increase your chances of gaining more muscle than fat when you do start a higher calorie diet. It will also help you to keep your body fat levels in check. It is very easy to let your body fat levels get out of hand when trying to "bulk up". This is a mistake. The more body fat you have, the more difficult it becomes to remove later on.

crazy8 · 05-28-2005, 11:48 AM

So then does Muscle Juice have alof of sugar in it? I dont know if it will help any but my plan is to work out atleast 5 days a week so wouldnt i just burn it off if it does have alot of sugar?But from what i can see with the Muscle Juice is there are 55 grams of protein. It also doesnt cost much eather which is a big plus especially if it works as good as i have heard it does

so for me is it a good idea to get it since i want to build up, be more defined, and lean out?
Thanx alot for all the info in this post this is great keep it up

crazy8 · 05-29-2005, 10:30 AM

Any ideas to the post above?

min0 lee · 05-29-2005, 02:16 PM

Quote:

What's In It?
Supplement Facts:

Serving Size: 4 Scoops (250g)
Servings Per Container: 19

Amount Per Serving:

Calories 1021
Calories from Fat 153
Total Fat 17g 26%
Saturated Fat 17g 85%
Cholesterol 77mg 26%
Sodium 108mg 5%
Potassium 365mg 10%
Total Carbs 162mg 54%
Dietary Fiber 0g
Sugars 162g
Protein 55g 110%
Vitamin A 47IU 1%
Calcium 358mg 36%
Iron 1.5mg 8%

Ingredients:
Protein blend (whey concentrate, premium whey protein isolate, calcium caseinate, egg white albumin), maltodextrin, crystalline fructose, medium chain triglycerides and natural and artificial flavors.

.

Flakko · 05-29-2005, 02:58 PM

As I said, a lot of people say to make your own gainer shake. When I'm at home and I have time, that's what I do. I mis ON 100% Whey with peanut butter, milk and bananas, but I had my own experience with making that at home and carrying it all day. Usually I'm at school since 10am to 3pm a two days a week until 7:30pm and I used to make my post w/o shake in the morning and bring it to the school, so I could drink it when I go to the gym after school, but since I have to carry it in my bag, the shake has a nasty taste and once it smelled funny.
So, IMO that's the only proble to carry your shake for a couple of hours if it contains milk, instead if u put a few scoops of gainer and mix it with water at the gym, u get a fresh taste... Just my opinion.

Flakko

DEBO1 · 06-02-2005, 05:00 AM

Try Russian Bear

LAM · 06-02-2005, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy8

So then does Muscle Juice have alof of sugar in it? I dont know if it will help any but my plan is to work out atleast 5 days a week so wouldnt i just burn it off if it does have alot of sugar?But from what i can see with the Muscle Juice is there are 55 grams of protein. It also doesnt cost much eather which is a big plus especially if it works as good as i have heard it does

so for me is it a good idea to get it since i want to build up, be more defined, and lean out?
Thanx alot for all the info in this post this is great keep it up

it has a ton of sugar in it. I would take 1/2 serving post workout. 55 grams of protein and 168 grams of sugar is WAY too much to ingest all at once for post workout.

05-27-2005, 06:47 PM	#1
LilDiezel Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 31	Should I take a weightgainer? I was thinking on taking these shakes that have 700 calories to build up mass but i'm skeptical about it because I'm curious if I will get fat Will I get fat or gain muscle if I take a weight gainer? Here is the link on the shake I want to take. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/tl/gainers.html
LilDiezel Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 31

05-27-2005, 11:32 PM	#4
Flakko Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NY Posts: 576 Photos: 8	You'll find a lot of opposed opinions, some will say don't take a gainer, do it yourself, other gonna say, do it!!! IMO, I've been using Cytogainer and ON Serious Mass with great results, but it also depends on your main goal, right now I'm bulking, so far I've gained around 20lbs since January. As Rocky B said, try to get a gainer low in sugar, Cytogainer has only 5g I think and has 3g of Creatine Monohydrate, and it mix easily, you can give it a try. Also, Serious Mass is a good one. I take twice a day with milk, one after w/o and one before bed, the only thing is that it has just 50g of protein per serving, the serving is big and has over 1,000 calories, what I do, I split it in 2 services and add a scoop os ON 100% Whey, plus 16oz of milk, which gonna give a great shake Last edited by Flakko : 05-28-2005 at 12:21 AM.

05-28-2005, 01:43 AM	#6
crazy8 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 110	ABLQ2: I am thinking of getting muscle juice. Have you been having good results with it? How long have you been using it? Is it true that it actually tastes good to?Im not looking to gain per say but I want to bulk up, build up, and be leaner is Muscle Juice something i should get then? Thanx alot
crazy8 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 110

05-28-2005, 05:15 AM	#8
Arrhar!! Arnold's neighbour Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 109	most weight gainers sucks, most of them are expensive and contains a shit load of sugar, you are better off making your own, get whey protein, and mix it with milk, add honey or peanut butter or whatever, up to you.
	Ka-Boom!

05-28-2005, 11:48 AM	#12
crazy8 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 110	So then does Muscle Juice have alof of sugar in it? I dont know if it will help any but my plan is to work out atleast 5 days a week so wouldnt i just burn it off if it does have alot of sugar?But from what i can see with the Muscle Juice is there are 55 grams of protein. It also doesnt cost much eather which is a big plus especially if it works as good as i have heard it does so for me is it a good idea to get it since i want to build up, be more defined, and lean out? Thanx alot for all the info in this post this is great keep it up
crazy8 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 110

05-27-2005, 06:51 PM	#2
Rocky_B Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 446	Take one that doesnt have fructose as like the second ingredient... The best ones are very high in carbs and calories, but have little sugar. I recommend Masstech, as it is high in carbs, calories and protein, but has very little sugar. This will ensure that you put on lean mass, as opposed to fat from sugar .. Btw Masstech also has 3g's of Creatine Mono per serving, so take it twice a day and you're all set to become The Hulk. The Weightgainer you want has 72 grams of sugar.. Masstech has 6 grams of sugar.. You can figure it out from there.

05-27-2005, 11:47 PM	#5
ABLQ2 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Frieburg Posts: 437 Photos: 1	Muscle Juice 2544 is an awesome weight gainer. the fact of the matter is, no matter what youre going to put on some fat, but the fat provides extra energy to build muscle. -and if it happens to have a lot of sugar in it, take it directly after a workout so you burn off most of the sugar leaving the important nutrients for recovery.

05-28-2005, 03:32 AM	#7
ABLQ2 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Frieburg Posts: 437 Photos: 1	I've had amazing results with it, i gained 15 pounds in a month on it - ive been using it for about a month. i'd say my bodyfat percentage only went up about 1%, and it tastes incredibly sweet. almost so sweet it makes me want to vomit - but ya its good in a smoothie especially. id say if use it youll bulk up quick, but youll have to cut a bit after you use it all.

05-28-2005, 08:24 AM	#9
Tha Don Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,826 Photos: 33	you just can't beat whey and oats, instant high quality nutrition in a glass, i drink a good 2-3 of them a day, either along with other food, as my pre-workout shake, or as a standalone. why would you waste your money on a tub of sugar when there are much better more cost effective alternatives

05-29-2005, 10:30 AM	#13
crazy8 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 110	Any ideas to the post above?
crazy8 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 110

05-29-2005, 02:58 PM	#15
Flakko Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NY Posts: 576 Photos: 8	As I said, a lot of people say to make your own gainer shake. When I'm at home and I have time, that's what I do. I mis ON 100% Whey with peanut butter, milk and bananas, but I had my own experience with making that at home and carrying it all day. Usually I'm at school since 10am to 3pm a two days a week until 7:30pm and I used to make my post w/o shake in the morning and bring it to the school, so I could drink it when I go to the gym after school, but since I have to carry it in my bag, the shake has a nasty taste and once it smelled funny. So, IMO that's the only proble to carry your shake for a couple of hours if it contains milk, instead if u put a few scoops of gainer and mix it with water at the gym, u get a fresh taste... Just my opinion. Flakko

06-02-2005, 05:00 AM	#16
DEBO1 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 22	Try Russian Bear
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