Thread: M1T at 16, how bad could it really be

First off, you will shut your nuts down. Say goodbye to boners at the very least (not that god approves of what you do with them ), and at the worst - you could shut down your natural testosterone production forever. Sound worth it?

But wait, there's more!

Another thing that steroids have a strong chance of doing at your age - closing off the growth plates on the tips of your bones. Translation - you stop growing at age 16.

Other common sides: lethargy (sometimes severe), backne, backaches, high blood pressure, depression, and yes - gyno.

You have TONS of testosterone coursing through your body right now. I see you have a P/RR/S journal going, so your routine's most likely fine - although there is a chance you're overtraining. If you're not making gains, the likely culprit is your diet.

Don't take a shortcut now that has a huge chance of causing you grief later on.

KK, cool, thanks for not being all retarded.

Id still like a little bit more info, if only to make myself sure, and so they dont tempt me...

"shooortcuuuuut.... Shoooorrrrtcut..."

shortcut to what? remember your natural test production is through the roof right now. you want to screw with that?

Seriously bro, I appreciate the input, but, I want like SERIOUS, hard hitting info.

Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

Honestly, sell me people. Ive read a bunch of crap, and I am so tempted right now it's not even funny. I have a source, and all that, please, tell me EXACTLY what it'll do to me, no newb retards telling me "you'll get tits". I want the smart dudes, like musclepump, etc.

I understand that it COULD screw up my endocrine system, but, how? Im seriously very curious...

you'll get tits.

EDIT: and if what Velanator said isnt "hard hitting" info, I dunno what is.

LOL, no, not Vellanator, hes awesome, his post was exactly what I wanted to hear. And I dont mean to come off as some freakin retarded kid whos holding his breath, wanting attention, Id just like some good info on why I shouldnt.

Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

Seriously bro, I appreciate the input, but, I want like SERIOUS, hard hitting info.

roll the dice then. you have read what the possible sides are. there you go. what do you want a % on how often it happens? too bad there arent any. no one can tell you 50/50 or 80/20 or whatever. you may make it out completly fine with no sides whatsoever, or you could walk away totally fucked for the rest of your life. how is that for hardhittling?

Originally Posted by bio-chem

roll the dice then. you have read what the possible sides are. there you go. what do you want a % on how often it happens? too bad there arent any. no one can tell you 50/50 or 80/20 or whatever. you may make it out completly fine with no sides whatsoever, or you could walk away totally fucked for the rest of your life. how is that for hardhittling?

Dude, dont be all lame. I dont really intend to take them, I just want more info as to why I really shouldnt...

Because your endocrine system generally works on something called negative feedback.. When your brain senses a need for testosterone in your body, it cues the hypothalamus to tell your balls to make some. When there is a lot, it tells your balls to shut down production for a bit. When you start taking steroids, especially at your age (and my age), your brain will notice the large amounts of testosterone in your body and stop production. Once your levels go down after you stop taking it, you could become dependant on it (your body will not make testosterone because it thinks its going to be supplemented with it), so you'll become a high voiced, erection-less, man titty guy who can never get sex, and in fact, your heart and other vital organs could get too big which leads to the risk of death. Take whey, it makes muscles big.

Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

Dude, dont be all lame. I dont really intend to take them, I just want more info as to why I really shouldnt...

you have more than enough information in front of you as to why you shouldnt take them.

I knew I shouldnt have posted this... Dude, Im talking, like what sides could I get, even with proper PCT, I really dont want useless crap like "take whey, it makes muscles big." I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, I just dont appreciate it when you insult mine, as a lifter. If you knew anything about me, you would know that I am actually not a freaking idiot retard moron like you think I am. Vell presented some very pertinent informantion. "Take whey" however, was not. Again, I dont mean to insult your inuslt your intelligence in any "whey" (... yeah, crappy pun...) shape or form.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

you have more than enough information in front of you as to why you shouldnt take them.

Again, I just want to say it. I dont mean to offend you, at all. Im not trying to be a jerk, or an idiot. So, please, dont get upset by what I said...

Seems like whatever anyone tells you, you are not going to listen. You have made up your mind. Good thing is, soon, we will be able to use you as an example to others your age as why to not use them

Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

I dont really intend to take them, I just want more info as to why I really shouldnt...

DUDE!!! Please, I want to listen!!! I just would like more information!!! PLEASE DONT WRITE ME OFF AS A noob MORON!!!

Originally Posted by dg806

I'm being an ass for a reason. I'm 41 years old and I have six or so bottles and I don't want to take it. It is some nasty stuff. It shuts you down totally in 3 or less days and your hdl levels plummit to near zero and stays there for a LONG time. Not good for your heart health. There are plenty of real steriods that are alot better than this stuff. It works, but not worth the sides IMO, especially at your age. You have a long time to grow very big with proper diet and training before you will ever need help. Remember, there is NO SHORTCUT! Hard work and alot of sweat is what it takes, even with steriods. And diet is even a bigger part of it!

BAM, thats the way to go. Thank you, dg. You rock.

In conclusion, dont take it, itll give you tits.

No problem!

I work with a guy who is 22, he took M1T when he was younger. He is big, but he has tits now, and you can see his tits through any shirt he wears. Big tits. Do you want tits?

Of all the compounds, why M1T? Worst sides of anything.

I'm 19 I haven't used PHs or steroids, not so much because the "You're gonna screw yourself up forever" is true, but because it could be true, and HRT would suck. I know of several people (one is my brother) who used PHs/steroids at young ages and show no ill effects (as of yet) and continue to make gains naturally when off. If you took 1-AD or something realistically you'd probably be ok, but there is chance looming over your head that your endocrine system is gonna have trouble getting itself back to normal, moreso than if you were older.

That said, I think the age thing is blown a bit out of proportion (The "you're never gonna get a hardon" mantra), but it's far better to err on the side of caution when kids are involved. My reasoning makes me question "screwing with your endocrine system" argument since alcohol, in particular, binge drinking, has a severe effect on testosterone levels. We all know how much this goes on in high school and college. If people are dropping their test levels down 30% or more with drinking (I've read it can take 2 weeks for levels to get back to normal after a night of binge drinking) shouldn't we see a TON of kids "messed up for life" or at least a portion of kids with this problem? Since this is obviously less severe than steroids the incidence rate will be far lower, but the amount of teenage binge drinkers is staggering, thus I would think a substantial amount of kids would have serious issues from it.

That said, I choose to err on the side of caution myself, I will wait at the very least until I'm 20+, more than likely go with the typical 21. This isn't intended at all to make you want to do them, just trying to put some thoughts out there and play Devil's advocate for something that is rarely questioned intelligently. Hopefully someone can tell me a little bit more about the effects of drug-induced low testosterone on one's endocrine system long-term (compared to steroids).

At 16yrs of age the BENEFITS are very minimal and the RISKS are huge...EVEN with good PCT. Stay natural as long as you can...I am 34yrs old and still natural and Im glad I didnt go over to "the dark side" when I had the chance. You have something that most of these guys can NEVER get back: you can say "Im all Natural." None of my buddies can say that and there are only a couple that are bigger than me. Good luck. Do what you want, either way you will pay the price or reap the rewards.

bigger and stronger, ive always wondered about that picture, is that a real guy or a altered picture? ive seen it online a bunch of times and always wonderd

It's a photoshopped picture of Ruhl.