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    Superdrol advice/ journal

    I am about to start a SD cycle and just want to know everyones opinions and if i should alter my schedule in anway.
    SPLITS
    day1-arms
    day2-light cardio / abs
    day3-chest
    day4-light cardio/abs
    day5-arms/back
    day6-rest
    day7-rest

    Diet
    Bout 3000 cals maybe a little less, mostly meat, tuna, fruits, nuts, potatoes, basically high carb/ high protien.

    On Cycle-
    20 mg SD
    4-AD 300 mg when i wake up, 300 mg 2 or 3 in afternoon
    I have previously taken 4-ad with great results when bulking, granted some of it was water i still think it should help retain mass and combat sides
    whey (oviously) and multi

    PCT
    Nolva (40-30-20-20)

    Goals
    Im 20, 175 lbs , bench 255, curl bout 75 flexd bar for reps, 5-6 years experience, previous 4-AD experience. Im looking to gain about 10 lbs of LM, seems responable from what i hear. I have platued on my gains for the past few months so i hope this help me grow.

    Questions- should i take the SD before bed or preworkout? should i take less 4-AD (taking to combat possible sides)?

    thanks for the help, i plan on posting pre-SD pictures and post pictures for anyone else who is interested. anything you guys think i should modify let me know

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    i have some suggestions:

    #1: stop focusing on your arms so much. do the big back and chest exercises and they will come along for the ride. they will have no choice.

    #2: take that all encompassing passion for arms and apply it to your legs. i notice you show no leg day in your routine. i dont mean to talk shit but i usually look at people who never do legs as posers (i used to never do legs as well, trust me it ends up looking funny).


    and your 20 i see. careful with the drugs. your obviously already committed, so just try and watch your lipid profile and all that other stuff i dont know about. mudge or pirate or gococks will be some help here.

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    ya, lipids./liver issues are the main side im worried about, i ussually drink 3 or 4 times a week(therefore abs dont show) so im gona take that strain off my liver for the cycle and most of the PCT. I do focus on my arms alot, ill change on of my cardio/abs days to light abs/ legs. and your right about the age thing, i took PH to early and had a few bad expeinces in the bed because of it I gona do this with that in mind and really strive for some gains.

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    How long are you planning on running it? You may know your metabolism better than I but I suggest not going below 3000 kcals if you are bulking on steroids. jmo.

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    ya sorry to leave that out, 4 weeks, ya ill prob hover right around 3000, try to stay on the high end

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    4 weeks looks about right to me. The strength gains from SD tend to level off for me past that point. I think you'll really like the compound. Good luck.

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    ya, it sound like good stuff, when abouts during the cycle did you notice the gains? and what time of day did u take it?

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    u dont lift legs at all why not

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    a tore my acl bout 2 years ago and training legs isnt easy for me cause of swelling and slight arthritus, my calfs are very large and defined and i dont work them out much. I really am gona try to work a leg day in on this cycle tho and see how it goes

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    yeh i mean even if its light for a while to get the legs use to it its worth getting em stronger

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    anyone else have any ideas or does this seem like a solid plan?

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    I dont know, Im partial to P/RR/S myself, but, that's my two cents worth... I dunno, it rocks my face, thats all I can say.
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    ok i plan on starting 2marro with 10 mg in the morn and 10mg pre-work out, does anyone think the 4ad should be taken?

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    ... Again, I will not comment on the chemical aspect of it, as I am certainly not an expert, but, I will suggest that you review your training plan, and look into a more advanced system such as P/RR/S, or another well thought out system...
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    ya, i am seriously thinking about trying gopros work out, good call on that, my normal routine is very close to his power week schedule for arms and chest, the shock week will take a little bit of time to get down tho, good call on that workout tho

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    1st day 2day, i did arms

    4 set 8 rep tricep cable pull downs
    6 set 4-8 rep preachers
    2 set 8 rep concentration curls
    3 set 8 rep flex bar, curls
    2 set 8 rep alternating hammers
    1 set 7 rep hammers
    2 set 6 rep CG bench

    took 10 mg SD when i woke along with 300 mg 4AD, took 10 mg prework out, plan on 300 mg 4AD b4 i sleep 2night. noticed slight increase in pump, not nessesarily from the sups tho. 2marro i plan on doing light cardio and legs

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurse
    i have some suggestions:

    #1: stop focusing on your arms so much. do the big back and chest exercises and they will come along for the ride. they will have no choice.

    #2: take that all encompassing passion for arms and apply it to your legs. i notice you show no leg day in your routine. i dont mean to talk shit but i usually look at people who never do legs as posers (i used to never do legs as well, trust me it ends up looking funny).


    and your 20 i see. careful with the drugs. your obviously already committed, so just try and watch your lipid profile and all that other stuff i dont know about. mudge or pirate or gococks will be some help here.

    good luck with your cycle bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kicka19
    ok i plan on starting 2marro with 10 mg in the morn and 10mg pre-work out, does anyone think the 4ad should be taken?
    personally superdrol "increases libido" and makes me feel "on" in steriod talk, i do not think you have to have andrgoens like with m1t.

    superdrol also blocks estrogen receptors so while your on the stuff its unlikley it will give you gyno, but when you stop taking it the estrogen that has built up will can now convert to estrogen so nolva/RXT is needed for PCT.

    But i arnt a doctor so dont trust me

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    I also tore my ACl but my knee stiffens up when I DON"T work my legs. Strenghthening the quads relieves the day to day stresses on the knees. Start light and work up. Working the legs provides benefits for the rest of the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardTrainer
    personally superdrol "increases libido" and makes me feel "on" in steriod talk, i do not think you have to have andrgoens like with m1t.

    superdrol also blocks estrogen receptors so while your on the stuff its unlikley it will give you gyno, but when you stop taking it the estrogen that has built up will can now convert to estrogen so nolva/RXT is needed for PCT.

    But i arnt a doctor so dont trust me

    i never read anywhere that SD blocks estrogen receptors, since 4ad converts to estrogen and test wouldnt the estrogen therefore not be blocked alowing the 4ad to simply add to higher free test?

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    Zero estrogen conversion with this superdrol, because it's 5-reduced and A-ring alkylated on top of that. Binding to the aromatase enzyme, estrogen production will be reduced. Also, the parent compound (Masteron) is used exclusively as an anti-neoplastic for metastatic breast cancer, so Superdrol is a strong anti-e. Clearly, Superdrol is not progestational, it is non-aromatizable, and even anti-estrogenic. But this said, it is worth reminding you that no one is clear on what the reasons are for why people get gyno. It can occur even in people using substances with these characteristics. One tester thought he could be having some early symptoms of gyno, although on paper there is clearly no reason to suspect Superdrol contributed to this. The point to take from this is that it is imperative to always have nolvadex or generic tamoxifen citrate powder on hand to administer at the first notice of symptoms of gyno.

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    I get lower back pains with superdrol which can be from low estrogen levels.

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    no sides to speak of so far, had lower back pain yesterday but i think i just slept wrong

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    any updates kicka? what are your gains like so far?

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    weighed in at 185 today, gained alot of muscle in chest and arms, the gains have been very dry and dense. most of the gains became noticable about 3 days ago. first week i didnt see much but gains are coming fast right now. im up about 8 lbs right now but i would say 1 or 2 is water weight from the 4AD. really impressed. only side is back pains, past few days they have been constant but not very intense.

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    from what i hear SD wil eventually be banned, does anyone know if there will be a 90 day period that the stuff is still available or will it be immediate, im just curious because i will stock up a few bottles if i can

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    Quote Originally Posted by kicka19
    from what i hear SD wil eventually be banned, does anyone know if there will be a 90 day period that the stuff is still available or will it be immediate, im just curious because i will stock up a few bottles if i can
    i'm pretty sure there will be a delay so that companies and stores have time to prepare/adjust

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    did bis and tris today, had really good strength gains from last week. I ussually do bicep curls with cables and flexed bar at about 100-110 lbs to failure to end my workout. I was curln 135 with no problem today. towards the end of one of the sets my right elbow wiggled halfway through the rep. It did this a few times so i desided to stop, not wanting to put anymore stress on ligements or some small stabalizer. Is this somthen i should be worried about or not? other than that my wieght droped down to 183lbs, so im up 8 lbs instead of 10, but strength gains were really solid today.

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    anyone have increased sensitivity to aallergies while on SD? mine have been crazy lately and i ussually have very mild if any

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    No, but I have been really tired since I've started my cycle.

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