Supplements Are Being Made Illegal!

**Prince** · 06-15-2005, 08:43 AM

Supplements Are Being Made Illegal!

Stop Congress From Making Another Supplement Illegal: Ask your Senators and Representative to oppose S. 1137 and any companion House legislation.

On May 26, 2005 Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) introduced a bill that would ban DHEA, a vital dietary supplement that provides many important health benefits. Last year the government banned prohormone and ephedra supplements, and they won’t rest until all nutritional supplements are regulated and sold by big pharmaceutical companies. This is our last chance to prevent Congress from taking DHEA off our shelves and to stop these ill-informed politicians in their tracks.

Your help is needed immediately! Join us along with the Sports & Fitness Supplement Association (SFSA) in sending a message to Washington today. Take 60 seconds to send lawmakers an e-mail as described below, and together we can keep this safe and effective dietary supplement legal and preserve your freedom to choose dietary supplements.

Why Should We Oppose This Bill?
This legislation, S. 1137, would classify DHEA as an anabolic steroid, adding it to the list of controlled substances and removing it from the market. Similar legislation is expected soon in the House of Representatives.

DHEA is not an anabolic steroid. It is a naturally occurring hormone that offers a wide range of benefits, including maintaining muscle tissue and strong bones, boosting immunity, and improving mood and sleep patterns. Further studies suggest DHEA may be helpful for such conditions as obesity, cancer, and Alzheimer’s disease. DHEA dietary supplements, which have been on the market for more than 20 years, are derived from a plant in the wild yam family.

This legislation claims to prevent abuse of steroids by athletes. However, DHEA, unlike androstenedione and other hormone precursors closer to testosterone, does not have a marked effect in building muscle or enhancing performance. Researchers at Harvard University conducted surveys of weightlifters and other athletes and found that DHEA is rarely — if ever — used by athletes for performance enhancement.

How You Can Help
We need your help to keep DHEA legal and to prevent the government from moving ever closer to legislating supplements out of existence. Click HERE to go to the “Save Our Supplements” website. Just put your ZIP code into the designated box in the top left corner and click “Go” to send a free e-mail to your Senators and Representative letting them know you oppose any legislation that would make DHEA illegal.

Congress should not restrict access to dietary supplements that have improved the health of millions of Americans. Take action now — we may have only a few days to make ourselves heard!

bulletproof1 · 06-15-2005, 10:41 AM

DHEA, has been called by many experts, "The Mother Hormone" because of its numerous positive effects on the body.
At the recent DHEA conference, a multitude of papers were presented extolling the benefits of oral DHEA therapy.

They also found an 89% increase in IGF-1(a powerful hormone with multi-faceted effects, most notable its growth hormone-like effects on body composition), a 14% decrease in body fat, and a 7.8% increase in lean body mass.

This indicates a significant increase in lean body mass at the expense of body fat.

Other discussions at this same conference centered on the cortisol-DHEA relationship.

Exercise has been shown to significantly raise serum cortisol levels.

In one study conducted by D. Jakubowicz and colleagues, 22 men took 300 mg. of DHEA nightly for 30 days. They observed an average 27% fall in insulin levels.
Another study revealed that high dose DHEA supplementation decreased body fat levels by 31% while maintaining the same overall body weight in just 28 days.

This study shows DHEA has the profound ability to significantly alter body composition to favor lean mass accrual.

Cortisol is a Catabolic(tissue breakdown) inducing stress hormone.

These exercise induced elevated cortisol levels may contribute profoundly to catabolic effects on muscle tissue.

DHEA has been shown to block some acute effects of stress induced cortisol.

yea its obvious just how harmful and dangerous it can be

**Prince** · 06-15-2005, 11:53 AM

where did you get that?

I do not see how DHEA could be beneficial any more than the orginal andro was.

topolo · 06-15-2005, 12:22 PM

I agree Rob also this will not pass Orin Hatch will strongly oppose it like he did last time. DHEA survived the ban because they have a very powerful lobby!!

**Prince** · 06-15-2005, 12:37 PM

You're probably right, but I would not care either way...I see no benefit in using DHEA.

redspy · 06-15-2005, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

It is a naturally occurring hormone that offers a wide range of benefits, including maintaining muscle tissue and strong bones, boosting immunity, and improving mood and sleep patterns.

Sounds like Testosterone to me!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I see no benefit in using DHEA.

I agree.

eh52874 · 06-15-2005, 04:43 PM

I've used it and didnt notice a thing. Of course I wasnt using 300mg daily either.

topolo · 06-15-2005, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

You're probably right, but I would not care either way...I see no benefit in using DHEA.

If you don't care why did you post the article?

**Prince** · 06-15-2005, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topolo

If you don't care why did you post the article?

because it should not be banned, if it is what is next, creatine?

**Pirate!** · 06-15-2005, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topolo

I agree Rob also this will not pass Orin Hatch will strongly oppose it like he did last time. DHEA survived the ban because they have a very powerful lobby!!

Exactly what I was going to say. Hatch stood up for DHEA hardcore, and I don't see why he would back down now.

Du · 06-15-2005, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redspy

Sounds like Testosterone to me!

I agree.

Am I the only one who had caught on to Red's post?

topolo · 06-15-2005, 05:26 PM

No, you're just the only one who thought it was funny

**Prince** · 06-15-2005, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by du510

Am I the only one who had caught on to Red's post?

I do not think he was trying to be funny, he was just pointing out that the description of DHEA in that article sounded like they were describing testosterone not DHEA.

**Pirate!** · 06-15-2005, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topolo

No, you're just the only one who thought it was funny

Du · 06-15-2005, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I do not think he was trying to be funny, he was just pointing out that the description of DHEA in that article sounded like they were describing testosterone not DHEA.

No, Im talking about how he quoted you as saying "Many benefits, including....."

Then quoting you saying "I see no benefit".

**Prince** · 06-15-2005, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by du510

No, Im talking about how he quoted you as saying "Many benefits, including....."

Then quoting you saying "I see no benefit".

that was not my quote, that was from the article.

Du · 06-15-2005, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

that was not my quote, that was from the article.

We are over analyzing and losing the humor.

I wasnt laughing at you, Rob. I was laughing at the choice of quotes that Red chose.

topolo · 06-15-2005, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

that was not my quote, that was from the article.

No, but you did say that you "would not care either way" and then you said you thought it shouldn't be banned

redspy · 06-15-2005, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by du510

No, Im talking about how he quoted you as saying "Many benefits, including....."

Then quoting you saying "I see no benefit".

Since we're in overanalysis mode my point was not to be humorous, but point out that testosterone is naturally occuring and offers a host of known and similar benefits, yet is banned and demonized. DHEA which purports similar benefits is perfectly legal, however, most clinical studies suggest it's completely ineffective at delivering the stated benefits when taken as a supplement. Even if they ban it it won't be a great loss to the muscle building community, the only thing lost is another freedom.

Anyway, it's been labored enough.

**Prince** · 06-15-2005, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topolo

No, but you did say that you "would not care either way" and then you said you thought it shouldn't be banned

true, but I do care, I do not want any more supplements being banned whether they are ineffective or effective we should have the right as free adults to buy them if we so choose.

raab · 06-15-2005, 11:08 PM

Prince is correct!!!!!! If we keep allowing them to chip away at what works for us as weightlifters & body builders pretty soon we left with nothing. If they thought that dirt would make us stronger they would figure a way to steal our back yards from us.

rrgg · 06-16-2005, 11:37 AM

I think he means that on principle it should not be banned.

If the govt bans stuff without anyone raising a fuss, it will be easier to continue banning other things that you do care about.

GAmuscle26 · 06-16-2005, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

because it should not be banned, if it is what is next, creatine?

I agree totally! I sent my letters/emails to my congressman and Senators.

lpz213 · 06-16-2005, 01:58 PM

congress jus jealous of seein swole up bodybuilders cuz they r boney an overweight.

FishOrCutBait · 06-16-2005, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lpz213

congress jus jealous of seein swole up bodybuilders cuz they r boney an overweight.

No, its cus they were rich kids who got beat up by people who didnt like rich kids who never worked hard. ...

They gots no muscles. Less eet em

(i sent my letters, to 3 senators!)

06-15-2005, 08:43 AM	#1
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,728 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	Supplements Are Being Made Illegal! Supplements Are Being Made Illegal! Stop Congress From Making Another Supplement Illegal: Ask your Senators and Representative to oppose S. 1137 and any companion House legislation. On May 26, 2005 Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) introduced a bill that would ban DHEA, a vital dietary supplement that provides many important health benefits. Last year the government banned prohormone and ephedra supplements, and they won’t rest until all nutritional supplements are regulated and sold by big pharmaceutical companies. This is our last chance to prevent Congress from taking DHEA off our shelves and to stop these ill-informed politicians in their tracks. Your help is needed immediately! Join us along with the Sports & Fitness Supplement Association (SFSA) in sending a message to Washington today. Take 60 seconds to send lawmakers an e-mail as described below, and together we can keep this safe and effective dietary supplement legal and preserve your freedom to choose dietary supplements. Why Should We Oppose This Bill? This legislation, S. 1137, would classify DHEA as an anabolic steroid, adding it to the list of controlled substances and removing it from the market. Similar legislation is expected soon in the House of Representatives. DHEA is not an anabolic steroid. It is a naturally occurring hormone that offers a wide range of benefits, including maintaining muscle tissue and strong bones, boosting immunity, and improving mood and sleep patterns. Further studies suggest DHEA may be helpful for such conditions as obesity, cancer, and Alzheimer’s disease. DHEA dietary supplements, which have been on the market for more than 20 years, are derived from a plant in the wild yam family. This legislation claims to prevent abuse of steroids by athletes. However, DHEA, unlike androstenedione and other hormone precursors closer to testosterone, does not have a marked effect in building muscle or enhancing performance. Researchers at Harvard University conducted surveys of weightlifters and other athletes and found that DHEA is rarely — if ever — used by athletes for performance enhancement. How You Can Help We need your help to keep DHEA legal and to prevent the government from moving ever closer to legislating supplements out of existence. Click HERE to go to the “Save Our Supplements” website. Just put your ZIP code into the designated box in the top left corner and click “Go” to send a free e-mail to your Senators and Representative letting them know you oppose any legislation that would make DHEA illegal. Congress should not restrict access to dietary supplements that have improved the health of millions of Americans. Take action now — we may have only a few days to make ourselves heard!

06-15-2005, 11:53 AM	#3
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,728 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	where did you get that? I do not see how DHEA could be beneficial any more than the orginal andro was.
	SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips! HumaneVoLabs - Foaming Transdermal Delivery System.

06-15-2005, 12:37 PM	#5
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,728 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	You're probably right, but I would not care either way...I see no benefit in using DHEA.
	SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips! HumaneVoLabs - Foaming Transdermal Delivery System.

06-16-2005, 11:37 AM	#22
rrgg Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 261	I think he means that on principle it should not be banned. If the govt bans stuff without anyone raising a fuss, it will be easier to continue banning other things that you do care about.
rrgg Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 261

06-16-2005, 01:58 PM	#24
lpz213 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 30	congress jus jealous of seein swole up bodybuilders cuz they r boney an overweight.
lpz213 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 30

06-15-2005, 10:41 AM	#2
bulletproof1 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: * Posts: 2,428	DHEA, has been called by many experts, "The Mother Hormone" because of its numerous positive effects on the body. At the recent DHEA conference, a multitude of papers were presented extolling the benefits of oral DHEA therapy. They also found an 89% increase in IGF-1(a powerful hormone with multi-faceted effects, most notable its growth hormone-like effects on body composition), a 14% decrease in body fat, and a 7.8% increase in lean body mass. This indicates a significant increase in lean body mass at the expense of body fat. Other discussions at this same conference centered on the cortisol-DHEA relationship. Exercise has been shown to significantly raise serum cortisol levels. In one study conducted by D. Jakubowicz and colleagues, 22 men took 300 mg. of DHEA nightly for 30 days. They observed an average 27% fall in insulin levels. Another study revealed that high dose DHEA supplementation decreased body fat levels by 31% while maintaining the same overall body weight in just 28 days. This study shows DHEA has the profound ability to significantly alter body composition to favor lean mass accrual. Cortisol is a Catabolic(tissue breakdown) inducing stress hormone. These exercise induced elevated cortisol levels may contribute profoundly to catabolic effects on muscle tissue. DHEA has been shown to block some acute effects of stress induced cortisol. yea its obvious just how harmful and dangerous it can be

06-15-2005, 04:43 PM	#7
eh52874 "Weapons Enthusiast" Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 24	I've used it and didnt notice a thing. Of course I wasnt using 300mg daily either.

06-15-2005, 11:08 PM	#21
raab Newbie Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: illinois Posts: 24	Prince is correct!!!!!! If we keep allowing them to chip away at what works for us as weightlifters & body builders pretty soon we left with nothing. If they thought that dirt would make us stronger they would figure a way to steal our back yards from us.